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| Maybe I didn't understand what kinds of accounts you have here (though my advice regarding downloaded transaction data would likely be the same). There are two real world accounts involved here? I read your first post to indicate that you had a fixed payment first mortgage loan (a Loan Account in Money) and a fixed payment second mortgage home equity loan (another Loan Account in Money)? Were that the case, I'd think these should both be Loans with fixed payments and simple interest on an amortization schedule. In this case, the P/I split should be calculated by Money as to be Close Enough to not further worry about. Yes, there will likely be some rounding error accumulated over time, but it should be "in the noise". In this scenario, downloading the P/I info won't change much but will just create work chasing pennies. But I read this post and re-read your original to say that it's one account--or at least it's downloading as one account--and that you have to wade through LOTS of information to get to four numbers. So, I'm wondering if this is really a fixed payment first mortgage and a revolving equity loan that has new real transactions--which I would think you could enter as the spending occurs during the month, either by downloading or the old-fashioned way. If this latter is the case, then I think--no matter how your bank downloads transactions--that it really is best to handle it as two separate Money accounts, one a Loan and the other some type of credit account. The Loan should still be calculating on its own pretty close to the point of only needing hand tweaks annually or so. Directly to the subject of your post: if this is just a mortgage, the best type of account is a Loan. It sounds like this is more than just a mortgage. <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:a93101c4885b$fa89e8c0$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > Well, I can enter them by hand. That's what I have been > doing for years until I discovered I could download them > if they were matched to a credit account. > But ONLY entering all the data by hand means waiting until > the paper statement comes at the end of the month (10-12 > pages) and wading through all the information to find just > how much was principal and just how much was interest. So > it just seemed easier to download them as they become > available and they copy the amounts to the Loans and > Liabilities Account. But that still leaves me with TWO > accounts for the same Loan. > Everyone on this forum has been so creative, I thought > there might be a better way to handle this. Just looking > for ideas. |
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| If the payment transactions are taken out of a credit card or checking account, set them up to post automatically to that account in Money. Don't download the mortgage transactions from the bank, but do download the credit card/checking transactions. Having the transactions post automatically from mortgage to checking posts them as unreconciled. When you link to the bank to download the checking account transactions, make sure the downloaded mortgage payment links to the one Money posted automatically. Once you do that, it will be marked as 'E', i.e., electronically cleared. Unlike Dick, I download everything possible. I've been doing this for years. It works fine for me. YMMV. Once a year, as the bank changes the escrow amount, I may not revise the mortgage account in a timely manner. If so, the loan payment entered by Money differs from that downloaded from the bank into my checking account. I have to manually 'change' the link. That's also a reminder to me to update the loan account to reflect the current escrow portion. Future transaction downloads link automatically again because the payee and amount match. I reconcile my mortgage statements to the loan account once a year, to make sure the annual interest paid balances with that filed with the IRS by the bank. Not using a credit card account for my mortgage payments, I've never experienced the tax reporting problem described by Art. -- Chris Cowles, Gainesville, FL "Sharon" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:a8d801c48852$5b1b2d20$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > For years I have listed my Home Mortgage and my Home > Equity Loans as Account Type "Loan and Liability". They > were set up this way thru the wizard and the pros of doing > this is that I can look long term to see how many payments > are left as well as some other advantages. > HOWEVER, when I download transactions from my bank, these > accounts are not listed as matches to the bank accounts. > BUT, if I create a new Account under Credit Accounts, then > I can match them and I receive the transactions downloaded > just like I do from my checking accounts. > So, as of now I have these two accounts set up BOTH WAYS. > So the bank downloads the transactions to Home Mortage > (Credit Account), and then I manually copy the information > to the Home Mortage (Loan and Liablity Account). Any ideas > on how to simplify this process? > Thanks, > Sharon |
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| Some of the older versions of Money did not correctly handle TAX related transactions when they were matched to a credit account. I am not certain what the current status is as I quickly gave up on using them as credit accounts after problems with 2003 and exporting tax data did not show up my Mortgage interest payments. anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com wrote: - quote - > Well, I can enter them by hand. That's what I have been > doing for years until I discovered I could download them > if they were matched to a credit account. > But ONLY entering all the data by hand means waiting until > the paper statement comes at the end of the month (10-12 > pages) and wading through all the information to find just > how much was principal and just how much was interest. So > it just seemed easier to download them as they become > available and they copy the amounts to the Loans and > Liabilities Account. But that still leaves me with TWO > accounts for the same Loan. > Everyone on this forum has been so creative, I thought > there might be a better way to handle this. Just looking > for ideas. > Thanks. > Sharon > > -----Original Message----- > > Enter transactions by hand and don't download transaction > data? > > "Sharon" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in > message > > news:a8d801c48852$5b1b2d20$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... > > > > For years I have listed my Home Mortgage and my Home > > > Equity Loans as Account Type "Loan and Liability". They > > > were set up this way thru the wizard and the pros of > doing > > > this is that I can look long term to see how many > payments > > > are left as well as some other advantages. > > > > > HOWEVER, when I download transactions from my bank, > these > > > accounts are not listed as matches to the bank accounts. > > > BUT, if I create a new Account under Credit Accounts, > then > > > I can match them and I receive the transactions > downloaded > > > just like I do from my checking accounts. > > > > > So, as of now I have these two accounts set up BOTH > WAYS. > > > So the bank downloads the transactions to Home Mortage > > > (Credit Account), and then I manually copy the > information > > > to the Home Mortage (Loan and Liablity Account). Any > ideas > > > on how to simplify this process? > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sharon > > > > . > |
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| Well, I can enter them by hand. That's what I have been doing for years until I discovered I could download them if they were matched to a credit account. But ONLY entering all the data by hand means waiting until the paper statement comes at the end of the month (10-12 pages) and wading through all the information to find just how much was principal and just how much was interest. So it just seemed easier to download them as they become available and they copy the amounts to the Loans and Liabilities Account. But that still leaves me with TWO accounts for the same Loan. Everyone on this forum has been so creative, I thought there might be a better way to handle this. Just looking for ideas. Thanks. Sharon - quote - > -----Original Message----- > Enter transactions by hand and don't download transaction data? > "Sharon" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:a8d801c48852$5b1b2d20$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... > > For years I have listed my Home Mortgage and my Home > > Equity Loans as Account Type "Loan and Liability". They > > were set up this way thru the wizard and the pros of doing > > this is that I can look long term to see how many payments > > are left as well as some other advantages. > > > HOWEVER, when I download transactions from my bank, these > > accounts are not listed as matches to the bank accounts. > > BUT, if I create a new Account under Credit Accounts, then > > I can match them and I receive the transactions downloaded > > just like I do from my checking accounts. > > > So, as of now I have these two accounts set up BOTH WAYS. > > So the bank downloads the transactions to Home Mortage > > (Credit Account), and then I manually copy the information > > to the Home Mortage (Loan and Liablity Account). Any ideas > > on how to simplify this process? > > > Thanks, > > Sharon > . |
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| Enter transactions by hand and don't download transaction data? "Sharon" <anonymous[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:a8d801c48852$5b1b2d20$a501280a[at]phx.gbl... - quote - > For years I have listed my Home Mortgage and my Home > Equity Loans as Account Type "Loan and Liability". They > were set up this way thru the wizard and the pros of doing > this is that I can look long term to see how many payments > are left as well as some other advantages. > HOWEVER, when I download transactions from my bank, these > accounts are not listed as matches to the bank accounts. > BUT, if I create a new Account under Credit Accounts, then > I can match them and I receive the transactions downloaded > just like I do from my checking accounts. > So, as of now I have these two accounts set up BOTH WAYS. > So the bank downloads the transactions to Home Mortage > (Credit Account), and then I manually copy the information > to the Home Mortage (Loan and Liablity Account). Any ideas > on how to simplify this process? > Thanks, > Sharon |
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| For years I have listed my Home Mortgage and my Home Equity Loans as Account Type "Loan and Liability". They were set up this way thru the wizard and the pros of doing this is that I can look long term to see how many payments are left as well as some other advantages. HOWEVER, when I download transactions from my bank, these accounts are not listed as matches to the bank accounts. BUT, if I create a new Account under Credit Accounts, then I can match them and I receive the transactions downloaded just like I do from my checking accounts. So, as of now I have these two accounts set up BOTH WAYS. So the bank downloads the transactions to Home Mortage (Credit Account), and then I manually copy the information to the Home Mortage (Loan and Liablity Account). Any ideas on how to simplify this process? Thanks, Sharon |
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