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Old 08-16-2004, 02:15 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: I give up

In microsoft.public.money, CR wrote:

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> via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx(Cal Learner-- MVP) wrote in message news:<1rlph0t3cbgosknjtku96oakujdm2vs6hd[at]4ax.com> ...
> > In microsoft.public.money, CR wrote:
> > > > Now, the Passport should not be the issue.. I'm successfully able to
> > > use this passport to login to microsot OEM services, etc. and it
> > > accepts it there. However, when I try to login to anything with money
> > > - even in offline mode - no go.
> > > Were you talking about Microsoft Money?

> Yes.


What version of Microsoft Money?


- quote -

> I'm saying that I can login to everything else, except for my
> Money files. Using the same .NET passport that is tied to money.. so
> I know the .NET password is correct.


You were using a .net Passport on the file, or a conventional
password?
- quote -

> I went out and bought one of those password cracking tools to see if
> it got screwed up.. nope, in fact, the password on the file is exactly
> the same as the password I thought it should be.. all the way back to
> backups from middle July.
> So, I've got the password right.. but when I try to login, I still get
> the message:
> "The password you entered was incorrect"


That sounds like a conventional password rather than a .net
Passport.

- quote -

> I just don't know where to go from there.

I would try installing the Microsoft Money trial into a different
folder or onto a different computer, and see if that will open a
copy of your file.


  #9  
Old 08-16-2004, 07:44 AM
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Default Re: I give up

via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx(Cal Learner-- MVP) wrote in message news:<1rlph0t3cbgosknjtku96oakujdm2vs6hd[at]4ax.com> ...
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, CR wrote:
> > Now, the Passport should not be the issue.. I'm successfully able to
> > use this passport to login to microsot OEM services, etc. and it
> > accepts it there. However, when I try to login to anything with money
> > - even in offline mode - no go.

> Were you talking about Microsoft Money?


Yes. I'm saying that I can login to everything else, except for my
Money files. Using the same .NET passport that is tied to money.. so
I know the .NET password is correct.

I went out and bought one of those password cracking tools to see if
it got screwed up.. nope, in fact, the password on the file is exactly
the same as the password I thought it should be.. all the way back to
backups from middle July.

So, I've got the password right.. but when I try to login, I still get
the message:

"The password you entered was incorrect"

I just don't know where to go from there.
  #8  
Old 08-14-2004, 08:21 AM
Arthur
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Default Re: I give up

You need to understand failure. Reliability is the mathematical
product of the reliability of each and every potential failure point.
Consider 10 failure points each with 99% reliability. The total
reliability is .99*.99*.99*.99*.99*.99*.99*.99*.99*.99=~.90 What is
the reliability of every program module for instance? How many
modules? Is any program module 100% perfect?

We all intuitively know that the more complex a system the greater the
risk of failure. Now you know why and why it is so much more risky
adding another layer of failure points like .NET and MS support and MS
reputation for its Marketing Rules philosophy aka glitz sells.

arthur
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On 12 Aug 2004 23:59:11 -0700, (CR) wrote:
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> Or something similar. Yes, we backup frequently. But same issue with
> backups.
> Now, the Passport should not be the issue.. I'm successfully able to
> use this passport to login to microsot OEM services, etc. and it
> accepts it there. However, when I try to login to anything with money
> - even in offline mode - no go.
> And yes, I've looked at everything in the list at MS's site If my
> passport works in everything else, just not money, and money won't
> even let me into recent backups *argh* Unsure. Not really worth my
> hastle. This thing really should have never been tied to .NET, even
> on a local machine.. anything that has to do with external
> authentication on your own data.. hmm.

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Old 08-13-2004, 03:00 PM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: I give up

In microsoft.public.money, CR wrote:

- quote -

> Now, the Passport should not be the issue.. I'm successfully able to
> use this passport to login to microsot OEM services, etc. and it
> accepts it there. However, when I try to login to anything with money
> - even in offline mode - no go.


Were you talking about Microsoft Money?
  #6  
Old 08-13-2004, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: I give up

"Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message news:<#Ie#9tBgEHA.3632[at]TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> ...
- quote -

> I really don't see where the word _secured_ is valid. _Lost_ is more
> correct.


Or something similar. Yes, we backup frequently. But same issue with
backups.

Now, the Passport should not be the issue.. I'm successfully able to
use this passport to login to microsot OEM services, etc. and it
accepts it there. However, when I try to login to anything with money
- even in offline mode - no go.

And yes, I've looked at everything in the list at MS's site If my
passport works in everything else, just not money, and money won't
even let me into recent backups *argh* Unsure. Not really worth my
hastle. This thing really should have never been tied to .NET, even
on a local machine.. anything that has to do with external
authentication on your own data.. hmm.
  #5  
Old 08-12-2004, 03:21 AM
Frank
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Default Re: I give up

I really don't see where the word _secured_ is valid. _Lost_ is more
correct.

"Greg Burns" <greg_burns[at]DONT_SPAM_ME_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eSkFhV6fEHA.3348[at]TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> A backup won't help if your backup is also secured with Passport
password.
> Greg
> "Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
> news:%23pmMek0fEHA.3292[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > ***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***
> > > "CR" <chris[at]kctechheads.com> wrote in message

> > news:9987ffcf.0408101442.730d990d[at]posting.google.com...
> > > I completely give up on this product. I've got three years

worth of
> > > business data in it that I now have no access to. I've been

without
> > > access for almost three weeks, and the best response I get from

MS
> > > support is:
> > > > > > > -----------------------
> > > It's possible that some maintenance we are doing tonight on our

web
> > > servers is causing intermittent Passport outages. You may have

> > better
> > > luck signing in online later.
> > > > > (Yeah, I know that probably doesn't sound to reassuring, given

our
> > > track record this week. Seriously, give it a try now and let me

know
> > > what happens.)
> > > -----------------------
> > > > > Yeah, not very re-assuring when I can't get billing out and for

the
> > > last week they haven't responded to a single email I've sent.
> > > > > I have no idea how I'm going to re-construct all the data. At

this
> > > point, I'm just going to pay for a third party to break the

> > password,
> > > get the data out and switch to quickbooks. If MS wants to tie

money
> > > and access to your own files to .NET, then the thing has to work

> > EVERY
> > > TIME. You cannot tie a business to a system that is going to

fail
> > and
> > > lock someone out of their own data.. I mean, these are finances,
> > > people.. if I can't open up and see inventory and quarterlies,

why
> > did
> > > I ever bother using this thing?
> > > > > Bah! Almost 3 weeks trashed.

>

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Old 08-11-2004, 01:16 PM
Greg Burns
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Default Re: I give up

A backup won't help if your backup is also secured with Passport password.

Greg

"Frank" <bbunny[at]bqik.net> wrote in message
news:%23pmMek0fEHA.3292[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
- quote -

> ***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***
> "CR" <chris[at]kctechheads.com> wrote in message
> news:9987ffcf.0408101442.730d990d[at]posting.google.com...
> > I completely give up on this product. I've got three years worth of
> > business data in it that I now have no access to. I've been without
> > access for almost three weeks, and the best response I get from MS
> > support is:
> > > > -----------------------

> > It's possible that some maintenance we are doing tonight on our web
> > servers is causing intermittent Passport outages. You may have

> better
> > luck signing in online later.
> > > (Yeah, I know that probably doesn't sound to reassuring, given our

> > track record this week. Seriously, give it a try now and let me know
> > what happens.)
> > -----------------------
> > > Yeah, not very re-assuring when I can't get billing out and for the

> > last week they haven't responded to a single email I've sent.
> > > I have no idea how I'm going to re-construct all the data. At this

> > point, I'm just going to pay for a third party to break the

> password,
> > get the data out and switch to quickbooks. If MS wants to tie money
> > and access to your own files to .NET, then the thing has to work

> EVERY
> > TIME. You cannot tie a business to a system that is going to fail

> and
> > lock someone out of their own data.. I mean, these are finances,
> > people.. if I can't open up and see inventory and quarterlies, why

> did
> > I ever bother using this thing?
> > > Bah! Almost 3 weeks trashed.



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Old 08-11-2004, 01:09 PM
Greg Burns
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Default Re: I give up

No, it is also a Money issue if you secured your password with Passport. A
friend is having this very issue, as well as others.

http://tinyurl.com/4slwj

Thanks for the link.

Greg

"Cal Learner-- MVP" <via_newsgroup[at]please.tnx> wrote in message
news:9h1jh010kl5e3v5qkvt3o5bd2sdf706nu3[at]4ax.com...
- quote -

> In microsoft.public.money, Clinton Fitch III wrote:
> > There is a fix for this off of the Money site
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=mny

> I suspect CR was not referring to Microsoft Money, but rather
> MoneyCentral / MSN Money.



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Old 08-11-2004, 02:37 AM
Cal Learner-- MVP
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Default Re: I give up

In microsoft.public.money, Clinton Fitch III wrote:

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> There is a fix for this off of the Money site
> http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=mny


I suspect CR was not referring to Microsoft Money, but rather
MoneyCentral / MSN Money.

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Old 08-11-2004, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: I give up

***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***BACKUP***

"CR" <chris[at]kctechheads.com> wrote in message
news:9987ffcf.0408101442.730d990d[at]posting.google.com...
- quote -

> I completely give up on this product. I've got three years worth of
> business data in it that I now have no access to. I've been without
> access for almost three weeks, and the best response I get from MS
> support is:
> -----------------------
> It's possible that some maintenance we are doing tonight on our web
> servers is causing intermittent Passport outages. You may have

better
> luck signing in online later.
> (Yeah, I know that probably doesn't sound to reassuring, given our
> track record this week. Seriously, give it a try now and let me know
> what happens.)
> -----------------------
> Yeah, not very re-assuring when I can't get billing out and for the
> last week they haven't responded to a single email I've sent.
> I have no idea how I'm going to re-construct all the data. At this
> point, I'm just going to pay for a third party to break the

password,
> get the data out and switch to quickbooks. If MS wants to tie money
> and access to your own files to .NET, then the thing has to work

EVERY
> TIME. You cannot tie a business to a system that is going to fail

and
> lock someone out of their own data.. I mean, these are finances,
> people.. if I can't open up and see inventory and quarterlies, why

did
> I ever bother using this thing?
> Bah! Almost 3 weeks trashed.



 
Old 08-10-2004, 11:51 PM
Clinton Fitch III
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Default Re: I give up

There is a fix for this off of the Money site

http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=mny


--
Clinton Fitch
Partner
C3 Technology
http://www.c3-technology.com



"CR" <chris[at]kctechheads.com> wrote in message
news:9987ffcf.0408101442.730d990d[at]posting.google.com...
- quote -

> I completely give up on this product. I've got three years worth of
> business data in it that I now have no access to. I've been without
> access for almost three weeks, and the best response I get from MS
> support is:
> -----------------------
> It's possible that some maintenance we are doing tonight on our web
> servers is causing intermittent Passport outages. You may have better
> luck signing in online later.
> (Yeah, I know that probably doesn't sound to reassuring, given our
> track record this week. Seriously, give it a try now and let me know
> what happens.)
> -----------------------
> Yeah, not very re-assuring when I can't get billing out and for the
> last week they haven't responded to a single email I've sent.
> I have no idea how I'm going to re-construct all the data. At this
> point, I'm just going to pay for a third party to break the password,
> get the data out and switch to quickbooks. If MS wants to tie money
> and access to your own files to .NET, then the thing has to work EVERY
> TIME. You cannot tie a business to a system that is going to fail and
> lock someone out of their own data.. I mean, these are finances,
> people.. if I can't open up and see inventory and quarterlies, why did
> I ever bother using this thing?
> Bah! Almost 3 weeks trashed.



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Old 08-10-2004, 10:42 PM
CR
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Default I give up

I completely give up on this product. I've got three years worth of
business data in it that I now have no access to. I've been without
access for almost three weeks, and the best response I get from MS
support is:


-----------------------
It's possible that some maintenance we are doing tonight on our web
servers is causing intermittent Passport outages. You may have better
luck signing in online later.

(Yeah, I know that probably doesn't sound to reassuring, given our
track record this week. Seriously, give it a try now and let me know
what happens.)
-----------------------

Yeah, not very re-assuring when I can't get billing out and for the
last week they haven't responded to a single email I've sent.

I have no idea how I'm going to re-construct all the data. At this
point, I'm just going to pay for a third party to break the password,
get the data out and switch to quickbooks. If MS wants to tie money
and access to your own files to .NET, then the thing has to work EVERY
TIME. You cannot tie a business to a system that is going to fail and
lock someone out of their own data.. I mean, these are finances,
people.. if I can't open up and see inventory and quarterlies, why did
I ever bother using this thing?

Bah! Almost 3 weeks trashed.
 

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