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| Do you really think 2005 will be bug free ??? I know i don't ;-) -- Glyn Simpson, Microsoft MVP - Money Check http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny for UK tips and fixes for MS Money. To send Microsoft your wishes or suggestions, use http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp or http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback especially if it's a UK specific wish. I do not respond to any unsolicited email regarding Money "Ion Control" <IonControl[at]echobase.rebelalliance.net> wrote in message news:RerRc.919$TO6.151[at]newssvr22.news.prodigy.com... - quote - > Gonna go out on a limb and say "Yes". I really liked the upgrade from '01 > to '02, and '03 had a few nice services added. I was not impressed by the > '04 trial so I skipped that year. I understand that '05 is a major > reworking (compared to '03 and '04) and will have some additions and > enhancements (and a cleaner interface I think). Personally, as long as > new bugs aren't introduced, I kind of feel that it's a good idea to > upgrade to the latest version of just about anything, as long as you can > get the software for less than $50 ![]() > "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... > > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to > > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the > > fact > > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working > > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned > > that > > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download > > statements > > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. > > Is > > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is > > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to > > find > > information on this. > > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > > inourmidst |
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| Gonna go out on a limb and say "Yes". I really liked the upgrade from '01 to '02, and '03 had a few nice services added. I was not impressed by the '04 trial so I skipped that year. I understand that '05 is a major reworking (compared to '03 and '04) and will have some additions and enhancements (and a cleaner interface I think). Personally, as long as new bugs aren't introduced, I kind of feel that it's a good idea to upgrade to the latest version of just about anything, as long as you can get the software for less than $50 ![]() "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the > fact > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned that > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download statements > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. > Is > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to > find > information on this. > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > inourmidst |
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| lol! Sept 2007! That's a good ways off (you can always format and reinstall (which is a good idea regardless...) if you're set to expire before that). Personally, I kind of like that. Nothing more annoying than services that are "hamstrung" to maintain compatibility with outdated software (I was so happy when Win XP basically abandoned DOS). My bank only recently decided to drop Money '99 users in the downloads, resulting in MUCH better downloads for me and Money '03. I'm still waiting for my wife's credit Union to do that. Talk about a nightmare... :P "Dick Watson" <littlegreengecko[at]mind-enufalready-spring.com> wrote in message news:u6i7z0LfEHA.2560[at]TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... - quote - > IIRC, M03 Deluxe was three years. The corresponding limitation in the M04 > Deluxe EULA reads: > "Expiration of Online Services. In accordance with the Microsoft Money > 2004 Online Services Policy, you will not be able to use the Online > Services > of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT (such as the ability to automatically and online: > 1) track and update your accounts and investment values inside the > SOFTWARE > PRODUCT, 2) synchronize financial data with MSN® Money, 3) pay bills, and > 4) > communicate with your financial institutions) after expiration of the > following time periods: > " . Microsoft Money 2004 Deluxe/Microsoft Money 2004 Premium/Microsoft > Money > 2004 Small Business: The earlier of three (3) years after your activation > of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT or September 1, 2007." > "Jody Miller" <jodyemberly[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:10hac8htabcb29[at]corp.supernews.com... > > I was unaware that the online services expire with the newer versions. > Can > > this be confirmed? I am currently using 03 Deluxe, so my 2 years are due > to > > expire soon. |
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| In microsoft.public.money, Jody Miller wrote: - quote - > I was unaware that the online services expire with the newer versions. Can
3 years deluxe and premium.> this be confirmed? I am currently using 03 Deluxe, so my 2 years are due to > expire soon. 1 year 2003 standard 2 years 2004 standard. |
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| IIRC, M03 Deluxe was three years. The corresponding limitation in the M04 Deluxe EULA reads: "Expiration of Online Services. In accordance with the Microsoft Money 2004 Online Services Policy, you will not be able to use the Online Services of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT (such as the ability to automatically and online: 1) track and update your accounts and investment values inside the SOFTWARE PRODUCT, 2) synchronize financial data with MSN® Money, 3) pay bills, and 4) communicate with your financial institutions) after expiration of the following time periods: " • Microsoft Money 2004 Deluxe/Microsoft Money 2004 Premium/Microsoft Money 2004 Small Business: The earlier of three (3) years after your activation of the SOFTWARE PRODUCT or September 1, 2007." "Jody Miller" <jodyemberly[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:10hac8htabcb29[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > I was unaware that the online services expire with the newer versions. Can > this be confirmed? I am currently using 03 Deluxe, so my 2 years are due to > expire soon. |
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| Have a look at the EULA. Should say something like "two years after first installation or dd/mm/yyy which ever comes first" -- Regards Bob Peel, Microsoft MVP - Money For UK tips & fixes see http://support.microsoft.com/default...d=fh;EN-GB;mny. For wishes or suggestions see http://register.microsoft.com/mswish/suggestion.asp or for UK wishes http://www.microsoft.com/uk/support/money/feedback "Jody Miller" <jodyemberly[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:10hac8htabcb29[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > I was unaware that the online services expire with the newer versions. Can > this be confirmed? I am currently using 03 Deluxe, so my 2 years are due > to > expire soon. > Thankz, > Jody > "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:C40F0FD0-B17C-4BAE-91B9-D3E43D40A93C[at]microsoft.com... > > Thank you, Mr. Watson. This gives me some things to consider and think > > about, and helps me to make a more informed decision. Your taking time > > to > > respond so thoroughly is appreciated. > > inourmidst > > > "Dick Watson" wrote: > > > > The only reasons to want to upgrade are: > > > > > a) new features (there are some since M01, but not all that many and > some > > > are only debatably improvements). It remains to be seen whether there > are > > > any worthwhile new features or fixed bugs in M05. > > > b) expiration of support. > > > c) expiration of online services (though I'm not sure if this applies > > > to > > > M01--it does to never version, I think starting with M03). > > > d) increasing likelihood according to the age of the older version that > > > Microsoft breaks some of the services interfaces and doesn't care. Just > this > > > year, they inadvertently broke quotes for M97 and previous and they > didn't > > > care to fix it. > > > e) the older your version gets, it seems that you are more likely to > > > experience problems upgrading (this is just speculative and still not a > risk > > > for most people). > > > f) disappearance of patches and the like. If you need to reinstall your > old > > > version, you may find that updates previously downloaded through Money > > > Updates (or, if you go back far enough, normal downloads) have been > > > disappeared. > > > > > If the past is any indication, it should be very simple for most users > to > > > upgrade to M05. You install Money. You start it or open your existing > file. > > > Money detects it needs to be upgraded. Money saves a backup copy. Money > may > > > ask a few questions (for profile information, say, that didn't exist in > > > previous versions), and Money upgrades the file. Done. On some older > > > hardware, this can take quite a long time with the hourglass up and > Money > > > not responding to Windows messages. But it still works out just fine. > > > Starting with M03, a significant number of users have posted about > having > > > problems upgrading. These have usually been caused by pre-existing > problems > > > in their data files and been solvable. Certainly the ease of upgrade > > > has > not > > > hindered people from upgrading, but the reasons above are likely why > people > > > do it. > > > > > The best way to find out about an upgrade is to try the trial version > > > available at http://www.microsoft.com/money. (There is one now for M04 > and > > > there will likely be one for M05, if the past is any predictor.) Before > you > > > do this, be sure you have backups and be sure you have you old > installation > > > CD. You can install in a different folder and run in parallel if you > > > are > > > careful and crafty. Also read and heed the warnings about the > > > non-revertability of the upgraded file and about how Money save a > backup > > > prior to performing the upgrade. Beware also that newer versions have > ALWAYS > > > made the same data file larger. This affects disk space and backup > > > operations. > > > > > "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > > news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... > > > > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary > to > > > > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides > the > > > fact > > > > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be > working > > > > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned > that > > > > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download > statements > > > > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to > upgrade. > > > Is > > > > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, > > > > and > is > > > > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying > to > > > find > > > > information on this. > > > > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > > inourmidst > > > > > |
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| I was unaware that the online services expire with the newer versions. Can this be confirmed? I am currently using 03 Deluxe, so my 2 years are due to expire soon. Thankz, Jody "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:C40F0FD0-B17C-4BAE-91B9-D3E43D40A93C[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > Thank you, Mr. Watson. This gives me some things to consider and think > about, and helps me to make a more informed decision. Your taking time to > respond so thoroughly is appreciated. > inourmidst > "Dick Watson" wrote: > > The only reasons to want to upgrade are: > > > a) new features (there are some since M01, but not all that many and some > > are only debatably improvements). It remains to be seen whether there are > > any worthwhile new features or fixed bugs in M05. > > b) expiration of support. > > c) expiration of online services (though I'm not sure if this applies to > > M01--it does to never version, I think starting with M03). > > d) increasing likelihood according to the age of the older version that > > Microsoft breaks some of the services interfaces and doesn't care. Just this > > year, they inadvertently broke quotes for M97 and previous and they didn't > > care to fix it. > > e) the older your version gets, it seems that you are more likely to > > experience problems upgrading (this is just speculative and still not a risk > > for most people). > > f) disappearance of patches and the like. If you need to reinstall your old > > version, you may find that updates previously downloaded through Money > > Updates (or, if you go back far enough, normal downloads) have been > > disappeared. > > > If the past is any indication, it should be very simple for most users to > > upgrade to M05. You install Money. You start it or open your existing file. > > Money detects it needs to be upgraded. Money saves a backup copy. Money may > > ask a few questions (for profile information, say, that didn't exist in > > previous versions), and Money upgrades the file. Done. On some older > > hardware, this can take quite a long time with the hourglass up and Money > > not responding to Windows messages. But it still works out just fine. > > Starting with M03, a significant number of users have posted about having > > problems upgrading. These have usually been caused by pre-existing problems > > in their data files and been solvable. Certainly the ease of upgrade has not > > hindered people from upgrading, but the reasons above are likely why people > > do it. > > > The best way to find out about an upgrade is to try the trial version > > available at http://www.microsoft.com/money. (There is one now for M04 and > > there will likely be one for M05, if the past is any predictor.) Before you > > do this, be sure you have backups and be sure you have you old installation > > CD. You can install in a different folder and run in parallel if you are > > careful and crafty. Also read and heed the warnings about the > > non-revertability of the upgraded file and about how Money save a backup > > prior to performing the upgrade. Beware also that newer versions have ALWAYS > > made the same data file larger. This affects disk space and backup > > operations. > > > "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > > news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... > > > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to > > > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the > > fact > > > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working > > > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned that > > > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download statements > > > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. > > Is > > > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is > > > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to > > find > > > information on this. > > > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > > > inourmidst > > |
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| Thank you, Mr. Watson. This gives me some things to consider and think about, and helps me to make a more informed decision. Your taking time to respond so thoroughly is appreciated. inourmidst "Dick Watson" wrote: - quote - > The only reasons to want to upgrade are: > a) new features (there are some since M01, but not all that many and some > are only debatably improvements). It remains to be seen whether there are > any worthwhile new features or fixed bugs in M05. > b) expiration of support. > c) expiration of online services (though I'm not sure if this applies to > M01--it does to never version, I think starting with M03). > d) increasing likelihood according to the age of the older version that > Microsoft breaks some of the services interfaces and doesn't care. Just this > year, they inadvertently broke quotes for M97 and previous and they didn't > care to fix it. > e) the older your version gets, it seems that you are more likely to > experience problems upgrading (this is just speculative and still not a risk > for most people). > f) disappearance of patches and the like. If you need to reinstall your old > version, you may find that updates previously downloaded through Money > Updates (or, if you go back far enough, normal downloads) have been > disappeared. > If the past is any indication, it should be very simple for most users to > upgrade to M05. You install Money. You start it or open your existing file. > Money detects it needs to be upgraded. Money saves a backup copy. Money may > ask a few questions (for profile information, say, that didn't exist in > previous versions), and Money upgrades the file. Done. On some older > hardware, this can take quite a long time with the hourglass up and Money > not responding to Windows messages. But it still works out just fine. > Starting with M03, a significant number of users have posted about having > problems upgrading. These have usually been caused by pre-existing problems > in their data files and been solvable. Certainly the ease of upgrade has not > hindered people from upgrading, but the reasons above are likely why people > do it. > The best way to find out about an upgrade is to try the trial version > available at http://www.microsoft.com/money. (There is one now for M04 and > there will likely be one for M05, if the past is any predictor.) Before you > do this, be sure you have backups and be sure you have you old installation > CD. You can install in a different folder and run in parallel if you are > careful and crafty. Also read and heed the warnings about the > non-revertability of the upgraded file and about how Money save a backup > prior to performing the upgrade. Beware also that newer versions have ALWAYS > made the same data file larger. This affects disk space and backup > operations. > "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... > > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to > > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the > fact > > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working > > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned that > > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download statements > > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. > Is > > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is > > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to > find > > information on this. > > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > > inourmidst |
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| The only reasons to want to upgrade are: a) new features (there are some since M01, but not all that many and some are only debatably improvements). It remains to be seen whether there are any worthwhile new features or fixed bugs in M05. b) expiration of support. c) expiration of online services (though I'm not sure if this applies to M01--it does to never version, I think starting with M03). d) increasing likelihood according to the age of the older version that Microsoft breaks some of the services interfaces and doesn't care. Just this year, they inadvertently broke quotes for M97 and previous and they didn't care to fix it. e) the older your version gets, it seems that you are more likely to experience problems upgrading (this is just speculative and still not a risk for most people). f) disappearance of patches and the like. If you need to reinstall your old version, you may find that updates previously downloaded through Money Updates (or, if you go back far enough, normal downloads) have been disappeared. If the past is any indication, it should be very simple for most users to upgrade to M05. You install Money. You start it or open your existing file. Money detects it needs to be upgraded. Money saves a backup copy. Money may ask a few questions (for profile information, say, that didn't exist in previous versions), and Money upgrades the file. Done. On some older hardware, this can take quite a long time with the hourglass up and Money not responding to Windows messages. But it still works out just fine. Starting with M03, a significant number of users have posted about having problems upgrading. These have usually been caused by pre-existing problems in their data files and been solvable. Certainly the ease of upgrade has not hindered people from upgrading, but the reasons above are likely why people do it. The best way to find out about an upgrade is to try the trial version available at http://www.microsoft.com/money. (There is one now for M04 and there will likely be one for M05, if the past is any predictor.) Before you do this, be sure you have backups and be sure you have you old installation CD. You can install in a different folder and run in parallel if you are careful and crafty. Also read and heed the warnings about the non-revertability of the upgraded file and about how Money save a backup prior to performing the upgrade. Beware also that newer versions have ALWAYS made the same data file larger. This affects disk space and backup operations. "inourmidst" <inourmidst[at]discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E76AC96D-2CB8-41A2-B6C8-4C93146280F4[at]microsoft.com... - quote - > I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to > upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the fact > that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working > fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned that > 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download statements > after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. Is > that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is > that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to find > information on this. > Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. > inourmidst |
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| I am using MS$ 2001. My boss told me to find out if it is necessary to upgrade to a current version (I see 2005 will be out soon). Besides the fact that MS doesn't support the older versions, and this seems to be working fine, is there any reason I would want to upgrade? Someone mentioned that 2004 has a built in timer that disables the ability to download statements after a period of two years. Sounds like that forces people to upgrade. Is that correct? How simple will it be to upgrade from 2001 to 2005, and is that one of the reasons to upgrade every so often? I've been trying to find information on this. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you. inourmidst |
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