> yes I tried "work off line"--guess what, it wanted me to
> sign in to work off line--and the was no button saying "I
> do not need to use the online features
> that require the .NET passport"---in the mean time I have
> most of my data loaded in Quicken.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Good thought. My bet is that this would have worked if
> that's what he'd done
> > the very first time he tried to access the file and
> every time thereafter.
> > My bet is that once Money downloaded the new credential
> for
> > joe_schmoe[at]hotmail.com it would have flushed the
> certificate cache of the
> > old one. Don't know for sure though. Anybody got a
> Passport account they
> > want to close in a test case to find out?
> > > "Brian" <none[at]aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:OhYNLo8PDHA.3236[at]TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > I hate to jump in the middle here....but did you try
> putting the dot in
> > the
> > > radio button for "Work Offline" or "I do not need to
> use the online
> > features
> > > that require the .NET passport"? That way, money
> won't look to the
> > internet
> > > for authentication....but will look inside the file
> only.
> > > > .

> I hate to jump in the middle here....but did you try putting the dot in
the
> radio button for "Work Offline" or "I do not need to use the online
features
> that require the .NET passport"? That way, money won't look to the
internet
> for authentication....but will look inside the file only.

> I'm mystified why you think Passport/Money should allow you to close your
> Passport account, then open a new account with the same user name to gain
> access to a Money file you protected with Passport before you closed your
> original account. If Passport's design allowed this, then any data you
> **ever** protected with a Passport could be taken over immediately by
> anybody claiming to be you--by using the same account ID--the moment you
> close your account. That would be a profoundly lousy security scheme.
> Virtually every decent computer security user authentication scheme (x.509
> certificate, PGP keys, WindowsNT/2k/XP user account security, UNIX account
> security (on recent systems, anyway)) works this way: A credential is
> forever unique. If you delete it, you cannot create another identical
> credential nor can anyone else. This is one of the very first lines of
> defense against spoof attacks.
> Money does work. Passport does work. You did something that was, in
> hindsight, dumb and are expecting Money/Passport to save the day in spite
of
> what you did. Sorry, I have to call it the way I see it. But thanks for
> helping us understand this issue; maybe others can benefit from your
> experience. And let's be clear for anyone reading this in the archives:
this
> is not a case of Money insisting on using Passport or the Money
application
> being taken over by Passport or a case of Money "locking onto" a Passport.
> About the worst thing that can be said about Money here is that its
message
> "sign-in name you entered is not associated with this file" has been
> dumbed-down a little too far to describe what's going on: the credential
for
> the sign-in name you supplied does not match the credential required to
> authenticate access to the file.
> Good luck with Quicken. Were I you, I'd be careful about using
> authentication schemes to control access to your new Q data file and I'd
> make sure you have backup paths.
> "Bill Miller" <bmiller1766[at]cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:2c7701c33f6f$3f56f8d0$a401280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > --O.K.-so I "closed" my passport account--the result is
> > still the same--passport will not let me back in--even
> > when I signed back in with the same password--reactivated
> > my account--still won't let me in--but this time it gives
> > me the message [as I reported earlier] that " The sign-in
> > name you entered is not associated with this file. Please
> > enter the correct sign-in name or open another file"--of
> > course I have never had another sign in name, but it
> > doesn't care--IT JUST WILL NOT LET ME IN--as you pointed
> > out all my deleting and reloading of Money was useless---
> > so I have again "closed" my account and am busily re-
> > populating Quicken with as much of the data as my paper
> > record will allow. Quicken, as I have said before, has a
> > definite advantage over Money because it works!!
> > Passport doesn't even care that I have all this data--it
> > ignores me and I ignore it--and Money.

> -----Original Message-----
> 3rd try. We seem to have had another bout of the
recurrent msnews comatose
> syndrome.
> What do you mean "resigned from Passport?"
> You closed your Passport account with your Money files
still associated with
> a Passport? If so, it's little wonder bad things
happened. That's like
> stopping the payments on your safe deposit box before
you get your stuff
> out.
> (Neither the Passport.net site, nor Money use the
term "resign from
> Passport." On the Passport member services site, they
call something close
> to this "Close my .Net Passport account." In the Money03
they call this
> "Disable Money's Passport features" and require a check
in the box "Disable
> this Passport for use in Money."
> If you want to go to Quicken, be my guest, I just want
to understand your
> case for the next person who comes along.
> "Bill Miller" <bmiller1766[at]cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:057301c33e4f$40e71390$a501280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > I have used Money for years--had about 7 years worth of
> > data on my computer-but about a month ago I tried
> > passport then resigned from passport-- since that time
no
> > matter what I do, I have been unable to get back in--
that
> > is why I'm now setting up Quicken---signing back in to
> > passport with the same name and password hasn't worked-
-
> > so now Money and I are through-- adios all!!
> .

> I have used Money for years--had about 7 years worth of
> data on my computer-but about a month ago I tried
> passport then resigned from passport-- since that time no
> matter what I do, I have been unable to get back in--that
> is why I'm now setting up Quicken---signing back in to
> passport with the same name and password hasn't worked--
> so now Money and I are through-- adios all!!

> -----Original Message-----
> OK. I'm confused again.
> You are a new Money user starting from scratch. You
created a data file,
> associated it with a Passport and now have problems
therewith and cannot
> disassociate if from the Passport because it says it
doesn't recognize your
> login name? You open the sample file just fine?
> Money, in my experience, does NOT "lock on" to a
Passport. My main Money
> file has NEVER had a Passport associated with it. Nor,
after the first three
> times Money suggested how important it was to associate
the file with a
> Passport and I told it to shove off, has it ever asked
again. Given this, I
> conclude either there is a problem in your technique or
there is some
> problem with your unique installation, since I do not
believe that
> "apparently Passport would lock on it" for this version
or the last or,
> unless I'm guessing wrong, the next. Microsoft is brazen
about promoting
> their other stuff via Money, but they just aren't that
brazen, yet.
> If you are starting from scratch either way, I don't see
any reason for you
> not to use Money v. Q. If you want to use Money and not
use Passport, go
> open the Money sample file. When you are in, Go to
File|New and create your
> new Money file. Everywhere Money suggests what a bright
idea Passport is,
> tell it Cancel or No or whatever the choice is. It
really is there
> somewhere. If you do the setup interview, it asks "Do
you want to use a .NET
> Passport to secure your Money file?" on the second
screen. Select the No
> radio button. (Better yet, answer No to the "Do you want
to use a password
> to secure your Money file?" question.) Read the messages
very carefully as
> who knows how misleading they are. But just say no. If
it asks when you open
> the file the next time, Just Say No again. Repeat until
it quits asking.
> This has worked for many, many, users who Just Say No to
Passport+Money and
> have never been bothered again.
> FWIW, I did try putting a Passport on a testcase file I
keep lying around. I
> put it on and opened the file and logged in and took it
off several times.
> No problemo.
> "Bill Miller" <bmiller1766[at]cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:02a901c33e46$abea2eb0$a001280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > I didn't convert from Quicken--I went out and bought
> > Quicken and am now starting over--since I can't even
get
> > into Money, it seems to be my only choice--and I can
> > assure you that I will never get near passport again
> > either. My problem is that even if I buy a newer
version
> > of Money, apparently Passport would lock on it as well.
> > I have tried deleting all Money files-including
passport,
> > but when I reload Money, passport locks it up again.
I'm
> > seriously considering saving what files I may want from
> > other programs, and getting out my original systems
discs
> > that came with my computer and trying to reload
> > everything. Don't know why it says the sign-on name is
> > not associated with the file, since it is the ONLY
sign-
> > on name I have ever used on this computer.
> .

> -----Original Message-----
> So, you can sign in on the Passport.net site using that
name/password?
> I'm really surprised you have not received a response to
a support case
> since the 14th. You submitted this case to Money support
at
> http://support.microsoft.com?
> How recently did you convert from Quicken? Can you
convert again?
> I wish I had a better answer for you, but I don't use
Passport with Money.
> Maybe I'm paranoid about ending up with this kind of
scenario? Lot's of
> people use it, though, and your's is the first case like
this I can recall
> reported here. That probably doesn't make you feel any
better, though.
> "Bill Miller" <bmiller1766[at]cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:16b201c33dcf$1c55de60$a601280a[at]phx.gbl...
> > I have signed back in to net.passport [I had previously
> > resigned] using my old password--but now what I get
> > is: "The sign-in name you entered is not associated
with
> > this file. Please enter the correct sign-in name or
open
> > another file."--I have no other sign-in name---have
> > trying restoring various back-up files and get the same
> > message--have gone to Microsoft as you suggested--
started
> > on 14 June--still haven't received a reply from them
> > Appreciate the help--guess I'm stuck with Quicken--I
> > don't like it, but at least it works.
> .