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Old 04-26-2009, 03:50 PM
Ron Peterson
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On Apr 24, 4:22*am, whatsup31...[at]live.com wrote:
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> Yahoo [1] provides historical data for the 13-week T-bill, 5-yr and 10-
> yr T-note, and 30-yr T-bond. *At federalreserve.gov [2], I get that
> information as well as data for the 4-week T-bill and 1-month
> "constant maturity" securities.


> Which of these, if any, is best to use for historical short-term risk-
> free rates for asset allocation analysis?


http://www.ustreas.gov/offices/domes...te/yield.shtml
gives the yield curve for various maturities.

I would use the one month rate which is currently 0.07%.

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> By "short-term risk-free", I am thinking of savings accounts or short-
> term CDs. *Is that the right thing to be thinking of for short-term
> risk-free investments?


You need to be thinking in terms of cash flow. Most emergencies don't
need an appreciable amount of one's assets. For instance, a nursing
home stay should be under $8,000 per month.

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Ron

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Old 04-24-2009, 07:54 PM
whatsup31415@live.com
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On Apr 24, 6:25*am, JoeTaxpayer <JoeTaxpa...[at]comcast.net> wrote:
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> The risk free rate has traditionally been considered
> to be the 1 yr T-bill.


Thanks. Fidelity uses a 3-month T-bill index for their benchmark, and
their Retirement Income Planner uses the 30-day T-bill [sic]. Data
attributed to Ibbotson seems to use something close to the 1-yr T-bill
historical data available at http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/data.htm
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Old 04-24-2009, 01:25 PM
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whatsup31415[at]live.com wrote:
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> Yahoo [1] provides historical data for the 13-week T-bill, 5-yr and 10-
> yr T-note, and 30-yr T-bond. At federalreserve.gov [2], I get that
> information as well as data for the 4-week T-bill and 1-month
> "constant maturity" securities.
> Which of these, if any, is best to use for historical short-term risk-
> free rates for asset allocation analysis?


The risk free rate has traditionally been considered to be the 1 yr T-bill.

Joe

 
Old 04-24-2009, 12:52 PM
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On Apr 24, 5:22*am, whatsup31...[at]live.com wrote:
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> Yahoo [1] provides historical data for the 13-week T-bill, 5-yr and 10-
> yr T-note, and 30-yr T-bond. *At federalreserve.gov [2], I get that
> information as well as data for the 4-week T-bill and 1-month
> "constant maturity" securities.
> Which of these, if any, is best to use for historical short-term risk-
> free rates for asset allocation analysis?


I'm not sure I understand :-) The Fed site may have an answer in its
educational sections. A lot of theoretical resources are concerned
with slight variations. My impression is, use the shortest maturities
(the "risk-free" notion wanes with longer maturities). Your question
may be answered by an accurate definition of duration. But I think
that if you want to apply that over different asset classes, you're
breaking new theoretical ground.

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> By "short-term risk-free", I am thinking of savings accounts or short-
> term CDs. *Is that the right thing to be thinking of for short-term
> risk-free investments?


In a word, yes, but savings and CD accounts are more personal, while
Treasuries are institutional. A bank can promote with higher rates
that deviate from worldwide financial rates. There is also the
question of liquidity, and how that notion varies.

Could you explain a bit more about what you are doing?

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Old 04-24-2009, 09:22 AM
whatsup31415@live.com
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Default Historical short-term risk-free rates?

Yahoo [1] provides historical data for the 13-week T-bill, 5-yr and 10-
yr T-note, and 30-yr T-bond. At federalreserve.gov [2], I get that
information as well as data for the 4-week T-bill and 1-month
"constant maturity" securities.

Which of these, if any, is best to use for historical short-term risk-
free rates for asset allocation analysis?

By "short-term risk-free", I am thinking of savings accounts or short-
term CDs. Is that the right thing to be thinking of for short-term
risk-free investments?

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[1] http://biz.yahoo.com/r, "Historical Quotes" link
[2] http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h15/data.htm

 
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