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| HW "Skip" Weldon wrote: - quote - > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:04:41 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote:
On the risk/return scale, it seemed he was asking for next higher thing.> > Sure, what would be the next level of investment above CD, but > > without FDIC insurance? > Arguably the closest thing to a short-term FDIC backed CD is a T-Bill. > For more, Google on "Treasury Bills". The fact that T-bills are not FDIC insured is a 'good thing', they are backed by a higher authority. Joe www.joetaxpayer.com << now, without the stupid "blog' subdomain. |
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| On Apr 21, 2:06 pm, "Gil Faver" <rowdy'sb...[at]xxyz.com> wrote: - quote - > "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removet...[at]yahoo.com> wrote in
you are right, I'm confused. T-Bills seem to have lower rates than> > Arguably the closest thing to a short-term FDIC backed CD is a T-Bill. > > For more, Google on "Treasury Bills". > you are dancing this guy around in circles. CDs, so why would one invest in that? I guess I'm basically looking for the next risky thing above CD. |
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| <nonsense[at]mynonsense.net> wrote in message news:d03eef1f-87cc-4568-9d2d-9b62c4f9203a[at]s16g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... - quote - > On Apr 21, 11:57 am, "Alvin" <ac...[at]muncher.com> wrote:
That is correct. In order to get more you must take some risk.> > http://www.treasurydirect.gov/RI/OFBills > The rates seem half of what CD's are offering, i.e just 0.1-0.3 %? Link to best CD rates: http://www.bankrate.com/gookeyword/r..._cd_best_rates |
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| On Apr 21, 11:57 am, "Alvin" <ac...[at]muncher.com> wrote: - quote - The rates seem half of what CD's are offering, i.e just 0.1-0.3 %? |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:iarru4hnpa36483bf59ibe7gbk86j7571t[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:04:41 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: > > Sure, what would be the next level of investment above CD, but > > without FDIC insurance? > Arguably the closest thing to a short-term FDIC backed CD is a T-Bill. > For more, Google on "Treasury Bills". you are dancing this guy around in circles. |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:iarru4hnpa36483bf59ibe7gbk86j7571t[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:04:41 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: http://www.treasurydirect.gov/RI/OFBills> > Sure, what would be the next level of investment above CD, but > > without FDIC insurance? > Arguably the closest thing to a short-term FDIC backed CD is a T-Bill. > For more, Google on "Treasury Bills". > -HW "Skip" Weldon > Columbia, SC |
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| On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:04:41 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > Sure, what would be the next level of investment above CD, but
Arguably the closest thing to a short-term FDIC backed CD is a T-Bill.> without FDIC insurance? For more, Google on "Treasury Bills". -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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| On Apr 20, 6:27 pm, "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removet...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > To try for a higher return, you're going to have to give up the FDIC
Sure, what would be the next level of investment above CD, but> coverage - so are you willing to do that? Your answer to that > question will help us give you suggestions. without FDIC insurance? |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:veppu41egp315j1hsrr2su79vu9c91c8m9[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:25:12 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote:
or, you could shop around and get the best rate you can find for an FDIC> > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. It is hardly worth the > > trouble of buying a CD at that rate. Is there anything else safe I > > should invest in? I just an $20k CD mature and looking to put it the > > money in a new investment. > The benefit of a CD is not the return. Historically, net of inflation > and taxes the net-net return is negative. > The benefit - the importance of which varies from saver to saver - is > that most CDs bring with them FDIC coverage up to the insurance limit. > To try for a higher return, you're going to have to give up the FDIC > coverage - so are you willing to do that? insured investment. It might not historically beat inflation, but that is no reason to throw in the towel and accept the worst CD rates out there. |
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| On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:25:12 -0500, nonsense[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. It is hardly worth the
The benefit of a CD is not the return. Historically, net of inflation> trouble of buying a CD at that rate. Is there anything else safe I > should invest in? I just an $20k CD mature and looking to put it the > money in a new investment. and taxes the net-net return is negative. The benefit - the importance of which varies from saver to saver - is that most CDs bring with them FDIC coverage up to the insurance limit. To try for a higher return, you're going to have to give up the FDIC coverage - so are you willing to do that? Your answer to that question will help us give you suggestions. Two other points: 1. One of the risks of investing is that we don't know what all of the risks are. 2. The best investments are those you understand. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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| On Apr 20, 1:34 pm, PeterL <po.n...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > On Apr 20, 11:29 am, Bill Woessner <woess...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
I have a SEP with Fidelity so am limited to what CD's they have. They> > On Apr 20, 1:25 pm, nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote: > > > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. > > You need to shop around. My bank is offering 2.15% with $1K minimum. > > GMAC is offering 2.75% with $500 minimum. Of course, it's debatable > > whether or not GMAC will actually be able to pay that interest. But > > at least your principal is FDIC insured. > > --Bill > Yes do shop around, although it's nothing great, but certainly more > than 1%. My bank money market acct is 1%, so a CD should be higher. do have an exhaustive list, and all are between 0.5% for short term and 1.5% for long term ( > 3 years ). I notice Citibank is offering a nice 12-month cd at 2.5%, but I can not use that one. ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Please trim the post to which you respond. "Trim" means that except for a line or two of the previous post to add context, the previous post is deleted. Thank you. |
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| On Apr 20, 10:25*am, nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. It is hardly worth the
Indeed they have fallen dramatically. Even if you shop around,> trouble of buying a CD at that rate. Is there anything else safe I > should invest in? I just an $20k CD mature and looking to put it the > money in a new investment. I have never investigated bonds, because I > don't quite understand how they work and all the tax implications > ( i.e some seem tax-free,, others not ?) the highest rates are < 3% and falling rapidly. If you're looking for super-safe stuff, I'd recommend staying away from bonds. The way the market has been, you cannot even trust the ratings agencies, so the AAA rating of bonds is meaningless. Stick with the CDs and treasuries for now (and treasuries are offering even lower rates than CDs but if you have millions to stuff, that may be your only choice). You could also look into buying I-bonds through your bank or treasurydirect, but there is a $10K limit on those ($5K paper + $5K online). The rates on those vary with inflation. The interest is exempt from state income tax, and federal taxes can be deferred to when the bond is redeemed. http://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/...res_ibonds.htm Read up some place on tax-free vs taxable bonds/bond funds. Almost any book on investments and/or financial planning will cover the topic adequately. You could start here: http://www.investopedia.com/university/bonds/ In general, corporate bonds are taxable, treasury bills/bonds are exempt from state income tax, and municipal bonds are exempt from both state and federal income tax. Anoop |
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| On Apr 20, 11:29*am, Bill Woessner <woess...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > On Apr 20, 1:25*pm, nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote:
Yes do shop around, although it's nothing great, but certainly more> > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. > You need to shop around. *My bank is offering 2.15% with $1K minimum. > GMAC is offering 2.75% with $500 minimum. *Of course, it's debatable > whether or not GMAC will actually be able to pay that interest. *But > at least your principal is FDIC insured. > --Bill than 1%. My bank money market acct is 1%, so a CD should be higher. |
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| On Apr 20, 1:25*pm, nonse...[at]mynonsense.net wrote: - quote - > 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days.
You need to shop around. My bank is offering 2.15% with $1K minimum.GMAC is offering 2.75% with $500 minimum. Of course, it's debatable whether or not GMAC will actually be able to pay that interest. But at least your principal is FDIC insured. --Bill |
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| 1-year CD rates are hardly 1% these days. It is hardly worth the trouble of buying a CD at that rate. Is there anything else safe I should invest in? I just an $20k CD mature and looking to put it the money in a new investment. I have never investigated bonds, because I don't quite understand how they work and all the tax implications ( i.e some seem tax-free,, others not ?) |
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