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| Don <dwzimm[at]telus.net> writes: - quote - > Another consideration: You can't set up a DRIP if your shares are in
Many brokerages will reinvest dividends at no cost and> street name. At least it was that way when I set up mine. track fractional shares as well. Fidelity, for certain. There's nothing magical at reinvesting dividends. You could just as well take dividends in cash and use it for rebalancing and further diversifying. Frankly, many of the DRIP programs impose worse costs than doing it at a decent discount brokerage. And you end up with that many more custodians to deal with. Not much upside in my opinion. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting |
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| On 2009-04-10 17:51:26 -0700, Igor Chudov <ichudov[at]algebra.com> said: - quote - > Now, if computer records are not destroyed, realistically up to
The SIPC insurance is reassuring to be sure, but I wonder what would> 500,000 USD is insured by SIPC, so I am personally not losing sleep > over my small Ameritrade account. happen if a large number of brokerages all shut down at the same time. I guess the same question could be asked about FDIC and banks. Strange things seem to be happening nowadays. Another consideration: You can't set up a DRIP if your shares are in street name. At least it was that way when I set up mine. |
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| Don, if you are worried about losing your stock holdings, you can always keep a certificate at home. It is only mildly cumbersome and has some important advantages, such as being a little harder for someone else to track down all your assets, especially if stocks that you own do not pay dividends. Many brokerages, such as Ameritrade, do not really engage in other business besides handling customer accounts, and they would be unlikely to fail in a bad way. But, with modern computer threats, hackers and so on, and financial shenanigans, being concerned is the right approach. Now, if computer records are not destroyed, realistically up to 500,000 USD is insured by SIPC, so I am personally not losing sleep over my small Ameritrade account. Note that declines in stock prices, of course, are not covered by SIPC. i |
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| On 2009-04-10 14:56:33 -0700, PeterL <po.ning[at]gmail.com> said: - quote - > Well then you have not been paying attention. Lots of banks have
It is risky to assume that, because something has never happened> failed before last year. But even in a difficult year like last year, > the FDIC has managed to take orderly transition by arranging seamless > transfer of bank assets. There has been not run on bank deposits. > For many it is a lot of bother to keep stock certificates at home. before, it can't happen. In recent times, in financial matters, we have seen a steady stream of occurrences that previously would have seemed unlikely if not impossible. When a possible loss could seriously affect one's financial health, extra caution would seem to be in order. Call me paranoid. |
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| On Apr 10, 2:37*pm, Don <dwz...[at]telus.net> wrote: - quote - > On 2009-04-10 13:59:11 -0700, honda.lion...[at]gmail.com said:
Well then you have not been paying attention. Lots of banks have> > Have you heard of a brokerage that, when it went bankrupt, failed in > > its fiduciary obligations re buying, selling, and administrating > > dividends of a client's stock shares? > No, I have never heard of that. In fact, I have never even heard of > brokerages failing. But, you know, until this past year I had never > heard of big banks, big insurance companies, and big auto makers > failing either! Since it is not a whole lot of bother keeping the stock > certificates at home, I would rather be safe than sorry. failed before last year. But even in a difficult year like last year, the FDIC has managed to take orderly transition by arranging seamless transfer of bank assets. There has been not run on bank deposits. For many it is a lot of bother to keep stock certificates at home. |
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| On 2009-04-10 13:59:11 -0700, honda.lioness[at]gmail.com said: - quote - > Have you heard of a brokerage that, when it went bankrupt, failed in
No, I have never heard of that. In fact, I have never even heard of> its fiduciary obligations re buying, selling, and administrating > dividends of a client's stock shares? brokerages failing. But, you know, until this past year I had never heard of big banks, big insurance companies, and big auto makers failing either! Since it is not a whole lot of bother keeping the stock certificates at home, I would rather be safe than sorry. |
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| hobno...[at]webtv.net (H B) wrote: - quote - > With so many large
A good article on this from July 2008: http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/ask...2008/q0721.htm> financial institutions in trouble, how do we determine who to trust to > hold our stock? Aside: The only stupid question is an unasked one. You helped others by posting your query, too. |
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| Don <dwz...[at]telus.net> wrote: - quote - > You are right,
Have you heard of a brokerage that, when it went bankrupt, failed in> when banks, insurance companies, etc. are no longer certain to survive, > it is reasonable to be cautious about brokerages too. I have always > held ALL my individual stock stock certificates in my very own filing > cabinet and was nervous about keeping them in "street name," even when > people generally believed financial institutions of all types to be > perfectly safe. its fiduciary obligations re buying, selling, and administrating dividends of a client's stock shares? |
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| On 2009-04-10 11:06:00 -0700, hobnobre[at]webtv.net (H B) said: - quote - > Please can someone help with some stupid questions? With so many large
You should definitely investigate dividend reinvestment plans (DRIPs)> financial institutions in trouble, how do we determine who to trust to > hold our stock? [Am I the only person to hold my own paper stock?] > Would there be any qualms about letting the stock's own company hold my > stock electronically? It would supposedly be accessible by computer- if > I get access to one. Or, in using that same company to sell my stock at > some point? Thanks. of individual companies if you have not already done so. You are right, when banks, insurance companies, etc. are no longer certain to survive, it is reasonable to be cautious about brokerages too. I have always held ALL my individual stock stock certificates in my very own filing cabinet and was nervous about keeping them in "street name," even when people generally believed financial institutions of all types to be perfectly safe. |
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| On 2009-04-10, H B <hobnobre[at]webtv.net> wrote: - quote - > Please can someone help with some stupid questions? With so many large
If you hold your stocks at a broker who is insured by SIPC, your> financial institutions in trouble, how do we determine who to trust to > hold our stock? [Am I the only person to hold my own paper stock?] > Would there be any qualms about letting the stock's own company hold my > stock electronically? It would supposedly be accessible by computer- if > I get access to one. Or, in using that same company to sell my stock at > some point? Thanks. account is protected for up to 500,000 dollars. Also, after buying a stock, you can request a paper stock certificate to me mailed to your home. Then, you would hold the stock, not the broker in your name. You can then keep it in a safe place, like a metal safe at home or a safe deposit box at a bank. Many people do this for a variety of reasons. i |
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| Please can someone help with some stupid questions? With so many large financial institutions in trouble, how do we determine who to trust to hold our stock? [Am I the only person to hold my own paper stock?] Would there be any qualms about letting the stock's own company hold my stock electronically? It would supposedly be accessible by computer- if I get access to one. Or, in using that same company to sell my stock at some point? Thanks. |
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