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| On Mar 9, 9:25*am, "rick++" <rick...[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Here is the pension insurance table maximums. *Its is based on the http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/da...tm#toc75433_34> age you retire. > http://www.pbgc.gov/media/news-archi...8/pr09-03.html > I have some relatives who retired from GM and been watching this too. > The insurance punishes those who took early retirement, > e.g. airline pilots who were forced to retire at age 60 until > recently. Some details of the pension plans of GM and their status is available here. There were negotiations with UAW and ammendments that make it a little difficult to sort out. As I read the balance sheet, their funded "Pensions" Liability increased from $11,381 billion at the end of 2007 to $25,178 billion at the end of 2008 (I'm assuming the $25 billion is the amount owed to the pensions at the end of the year). As I read the "Change in benefit obligations" (Note 16) the fair value of plan assets falls short of the obligations of $98,135 billion by $13,590. At the end of 2007 there was a surplus. The decline in funded assets appears relatively modest, given the extent of the financial market turmoil. It strikes me as indicative of the relative size of assets and pension obligations, that GM's total revenue in 2008 was $147,732 billion, and their total assets $91,047 billion. If I'm reading this correctly, the company is more a defined benefit pension plan payor than an automobile manufacturer. In any case, I'm fairly certain the various fund(s) are segregated, so benefits are not entirely dependent on GM's survival. I hadn't looked at their 10k previously, so the above is sketchy. |
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