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 Re: How to shop around for health insurance? On Feb 25, 3:25 pm, "Andrew Koenig" <a...[at]acm.org> wrote: - quote - > <honda.lion...[at]gmail.com> wrote
I am sticking with my words. It is much discussed. If you are really> > > > Practice preventive medicine. This is key to why many other countries' > > > > health costs are so much lower than the United States's. > > > Evidence? > > The statement is from general reading on the subject of health care > > and insurance. Google, or if you're dug in, do not. > In other words, you don't have any evidence so you want to shift the burden > of finding it to me. interested, you can do some homework. I have given up using fora like this to do more than toss out an idea. Those that are curious will study it more. - quote - > > Furthermore,
Then we have little disagreement.> > arguing that preventive medicine does not help reduce health care > > costs is AFAIC ridiculous on its face. > Good thing I'm not arguing that, then. - quote - > > It is also ridiculous to argue
You simply are not reading.> > with raw facts like infant mortality and average life expectancy being > > worse in the U.S. while the U.S. spends much more. A reasonable person > > would concede that an examination of why countries with national > > health systems and who spend much less have healthier populations. > If they do. Again, such a claim requires evidence. - quote - > As just one example, I have seen the claim that one reason that infant
I said it was key. Preventive medicine alone is not the only way to> mortality in the US appears to be more common than in many other countries > is that because of aggressive efforts to treat premature births in the US, a > significant number of infants die in the US who would have been classified > as "stillborn from natural causes" in other countries. It's easy to make > statistics look good: Just refuse to treat the hard cases. > > I do not know the facts of your claimed story about the UK and macular > > degeneration. But I will put out there the elephant in the room: You > > bet a national system will ration health services. This is exactly > > what the U.S. system needs. > Ah, but we started with the claim that other countries spend less on health > care than the US because of preventive medicine. Now you are saying that reduce costs. There is also rationing services to what actually is proven; eliminating the god-awful insurance middlemen and ensuing bureaucracy that is trillions of labor hours; probably a few other things that I am too lazy to review because my sense is it is wasted effort. I choose my words carefully. When I make a glaring mistake, I try to own it. |
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