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| JD wrote: - quote - > Steven
Yahoo!Finance has most of it.> Is that historical pricing data available without cost? > Thx > JD The open-source and shareware financial tools often download their data from Yahoo!Finance. -- Steven L. Email: sdlitvin[at]earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. |
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| Douglas Johnson wrote: - quote - > Dated Nov 21 2008, 12:10 pm, where I wrote:
You make a flim-flam, weasel-word statement like that; I call it to the> "I think we are at or near the bottom." > -- The Greater One. day, and you are the greater one?! Such temerity! - quote - > P.S. Now the market is certain to prove us both wrong.
Shhhh. I don't want the market to hear us. It is tantalizingly closeto bull market status as I write this... -Will william dot trice at ngc dot com |
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| HW "Skip" Weldon wrote: - quote - > If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some
You'll have to buy the book. > insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we > might focus upon? ![]() -Will william dot trice at ngc dot com |
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| Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > My humble admirer,
If we are discussing book rights, let me call your attention to this post:> The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as > declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other > than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted, > for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe > to the unwashed masses. > -The Great One. > P.S. Don't think that you can steal my book rights just because you're > the grand poohbah of this newsgroup. http://groups.google.com/group/misc....daab4eb8d1827c Dated Nov 21 2008, 12:10 pm, where I wrote: "I think we are at or near the bottom." -- The Greater One. P.S. Now the market is certain to prove us both wrong. |
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| "HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:j552m4pu7n5rjvliq8u1cpk2su1ivtjn8s[at]4ax.com... - quote - > On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:47:55 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote:
My guess is Dow 7,500 - 8,000 on 12/31/09.> > The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as > > declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other > > than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted, > > for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe > > to the unwashed masses. > > > -The Great One. > On behalf of on all of us unwashed masses, we are truly blessed by > your presence. > If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some > insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we > might focus upon? |
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| On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:47:55 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as
On behalf of on all of us unwashed masses, we are truly blessed by> declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other > than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted, > for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe > to the unwashed masses. > -The Great One. your presence. If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we might focus upon? -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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| My humble admirer, The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted, for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe to the unwashed masses. -The Great One. P.S. Don't think that you can steal my book rights just because you're the grand poohbah of this newsgroup. |
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| On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:14:23 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > In this very newsgroup, I called the beginning of the 2009 bull market
O great one,> to the day (assuming that I'll be correct of course...). Doesn't make > me a genius. Wait, maybe it does. If I end up being right, maybe I'll > write a book and make up some reasons for my incredible insight. To my great misfortune I overlooked your prescient call on the 2009 bull market. Would you please take pity on us mere mortals and restate it. Your humble admirer, -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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| dapperdobbs wrote: - quote - > Charting plays the moods of the market. It is tricky, but one can pick
In this very newsgroup, I called the beginning of the 2009 bull market> up obvious indications from time to time. My favorite is Elliott - > Prechter called the 1987 top almost exactly (with five DJIA points, as > I recall). to the day (assuming that I'll be correct of course...). Doesn't make me a genius. Wait, maybe it does. If I end up being right, maybe I'll write a book and make up some reasons for my incredible insight. - quote - > It still amazes me that it is possible to draw trendlines over a
That's what happens when you draw trend lines through tops and bottoms> chart, and see the tops touch the upper line, and the bottoms touch > the bottom line. that have already happened. But what happens in the future? - quote - > it is possible to pick up strong charting indications of
Really? He must own the universe now because I'm sure this is a skill> major tops or bottoms, before these occur, from time to time, and be > aware something might happen. A guy called Larry Williams (commodity > trader) developed a technical indicator he called %R. Many years ago > he accepted a challenge, and turned $10,000 into $1,000,000 in one > year (actually, more like $1,234,000). he continued to use after the challenge, right? -Will william dot trice at ngc dot com |
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| On Dec 29, 5:12*am, J...[at]blow.com wrote: - quote - > I'm someone that is just starting out building a portfolio with an IRA
J -> I opened. So I guess that would make me an investor As an investor you should look to financial anlysis first. The often recommended is "Security Analysis" by Graham, Dodd, Cottle. Charting plays the moods of the market. It is tricky, but one can pick up obvious indications from time to time. My favorite is Elliott - Prechter called the 1987 top almost exactly (with five DJIA points, as I recall). Back in 2002 he published "Conquer the Crash" in which he made a strong case for a very big market top, and said FNM and FRE would get bailed out, talked a lot about safe banks, and basically predicted what's going on today with astounding accuracy. He ties Elliott together with financial analysis, IMO. It still amazes me that it is possible to draw trendlines over a chart, and see the tops touch the upper line, and the bottoms touch the bottom line. But go with the financial analysis first. The amount of work you have to put in is very small compared to the gains you make. Recently, three people have asked me if now is the time to sell their funds. I discovered that none of them had any idea what their funds held! Amazing! I looked at three of the (many) funds and found very solid companies in them, so I told them not to sell. Then I got bored doing their work for them. The current market crash may have charting indicators marking it (especially in hindsight), but I think it is clear that the financial aspects of the mess are the motivation for the selling in stocks. So go for the financial analysis, first, and make that your reason to buy and hold, and eventually sell. THAT said, it is possible to pick up strong charting indications of major tops or bottoms, before these occur, from time to time, and be aware something might happen. A guy called Larry Williams (commodity trader) developed a technical indicator he called %R. Many years ago he accepted a challenge, and turned $10,000 into $1,000,000 in one year (actually, more like $1,234,000). But ... that's what he does for a living. And if you look at some of the trades he put on (mostly oil futures), you see he has a pair. He published a book on it all. Financial analysis and accounting, first. Then charts. |
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| Joe[at]blow.com wrote: - quote - > > There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted
Only if you believe that these methods work. To my knowledge, evidence> > authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave > > Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read > > these? > No but I guess I will need to huh? of their effectiveness does not exist. -Will william dot trice at ngc dot com |
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| On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:39:14 -0600, dapperdobbs <GeorgeCFL[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > That's a lot to evaluate, including the relative merits of charting
Nope. A friend suggested that I study that web site as he made some> methods. Charts help, but some skill in interpretation has to be > there. Do you have any experience with charting? money in the current market interpreting charts to guide him when he should buy/sell particular stocks. - quote - > Which methods are you already familiar with?
Aside from "buy low, sell high" None.- quote - > Are you basically a trader, or an investor?
I'm someone that is just starting out building a portfolio with an IRAI opened. So I guess that would make me an investor - quote - > With that background, you should be able to compare the various charts
No but I guess I will need to huh?> online brokers make available, stockcharts, and decide which you > prefer. > There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted > authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave > Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read > these? |
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| Steven Is that historical pricing data available without cost? Thx JD On Dec 28, 7:26*am, "Steven L." <sdlit...[at]earthlink.net> wrote: - quote - > J...[at]blow.com wrote: > > Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing > > to? Are there better/cheaper options? > I used to like them. > But that was before I learned how to download historical pricing data > into Microsoft Excel and other statistical tools. *You can do all your > own charting and data analysis that way. > -- > Steven L. > Email: *sdlit...[at]earthlinkNOSPAM.net > Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: A reminder to all posters: Please trim the post you respond to and try to be as succinct as possible. |
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| Joe[at]blow.com wrote: - quote - > Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
I used to like them.> to? Are there better/cheaper options? But that was before I learned how to download historical pricing data into Microsoft Excel and other statistical tools. You can do all your own charting and data analysis that way. -- Steven L. Email: sdlitvin[at]earthlinkNOSPAM.net Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me. |
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| On Dec 27, 4:27*pm, J...[at]blow.com wrote: - quote - > Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
That's a lot to evaluate, including the relative merits of charting> to? Are there better/cheaper options? > Thanks methods. Charts help, but some skill in interpretation has to be there. Do you have any experience with charting? Which methods are you already familiar with? Are you basically a trader, or an investor? With that background, you should be able to compare the various charts online brokers make available, stockcharts, and decide which you prefer. There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read these? |
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| Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing to? Are there better/cheaper options? Thanks |
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