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Old 01-10-2009, 06:03 PM
Steven L.
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JD wrote:
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> Steven
> Is that historical pricing data available without cost?
> Thx
> JD


Yahoo!Finance has most of it.

The open-source and shareware financial tools often download their data
from Yahoo!Finance.


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Old 01-06-2009, 02:46 PM
Will Trice
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Douglas Johnson wrote:

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> Dated Nov 21 2008, 12:10 pm, where I wrote:
> "I think we are at or near the bottom."
> -- The Greater One.


You make a flim-flam, weasel-word statement like that; I call it to the
day, and you are the greater one?! Such temerity!

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> P.S. Now the market is certain to prove us both wrong.

Shhhh. I don't want the market to hear us. It is tantalizingly close
to bull market status as I write this...

-Will

william dot trice at ngc dot com

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Old 01-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Will Trice
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HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:

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> If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some
> insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we
> might focus upon?


You'll have to buy the book.

-Will

william dot trice at ngc dot com

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:37 PM
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Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote:

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> My humble admirer,
> The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as
> declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other
> than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted,
> for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe
> to the unwashed masses.
> -The Great One.
> P.S. Don't think that you can steal my book rights just because you're
> the grand poohbah of this newsgroup.


If we are discussing book rights, let me call your attention to this post:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....daab4eb8d1827c

Dated Nov 21 2008, 12:10 pm, where I wrote:

"I think we are at or near the bottom."

-- The Greater One.

P.S. Now the market is certain to prove us both wrong.

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:15 PM
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"HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j552m4pu7n5rjvliq8u1cpk2su1ivtjn8s[at]4ax.com...
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> On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:47:55 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote:
> > The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as
> > declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other
> > than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted,
> > for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe
> > to the unwashed masses.
> > > -The Great One.

> On behalf of on all of us unwashed masses, we are truly blessed by
> your presence.
> If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some
> insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we
> might focus upon?


My guess is Dow 7,500 - 8,000 on 12/31/09.

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Old 01-04-2009, 07:11 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:47:55 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote:


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> The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as
> declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other
> than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted,
> for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe
> to the unwashed masses.
> -The Great One.


On behalf of on all of us unwashed masses, we are truly blessed by
your presence.

If it does not trouble you much, are you willing to give us some
insight on how 2009 will go for stocks, and on which sector(s) we
might focus upon?






-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 01-04-2009, 05:47 PM
Will Trice
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My humble admirer,

The 2009 bull market has already begun, it did so on Nov. 21, 2008 as
declared by me on Nov. 22, 2008 in response to a query from none other
than yourself. You should feel blessed that such wisdom was imparted,
for the oracle does not often reveal the inner workings of the universe
to the unwashed masses.

-The Great One.

P.S. Don't think that you can steal my book rights just because you're
the grand poohbah of this newsgroup.

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Old 12-31-2008, 05:48 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:14:23 -0600, Will Trice <me[at]invalid.com> wrote:


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> In this very newsgroup, I called the beginning of the 2009 bull market
> to the day (assuming that I'll be correct of course...). Doesn't make
> me a genius. Wait, maybe it does. If I end up being right, maybe I'll
> write a book and make up some reasons for my incredible insight.


O great one,

To my great misfortune I overlooked your prescient call on the 2009
bull market. Would you please take pity on us mere mortals and
restate it.

Your humble admirer,

-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 12-31-2008, 02:14 PM
Will Trice
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dapperdobbs wrote:

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> Charting plays the moods of the market. It is tricky, but one can pick
> up obvious indications from time to time. My favorite is Elliott -
> Prechter called the 1987 top almost exactly (with five DJIA points, as
> I recall).


In this very newsgroup, I called the beginning of the 2009 bull market
to the day (assuming that I'll be correct of course...). Doesn't make
me a genius. Wait, maybe it does. If I end up being right, maybe I'll
write a book and make up some reasons for my incredible insight.

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> It still amazes me that it is possible to draw trendlines over a
> chart, and see the tops touch the upper line, and the bottoms touch
> the bottom line.


That's what happens when you draw trend lines through tops and bottoms
that have already happened. But what happens in the future?

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> it is possible to pick up strong charting indications of
> major tops or bottoms, before these occur, from time to time, and be
> aware something might happen. A guy called Larry Williams (commodity
> trader) developed a technical indicator he called %R. Many years ago
> he accepted a challenge, and turned $10,000 into $1,000,000 in one
> year (actually, more like $1,234,000).


Really? He must own the universe now because I'm sure this is a skill
he continued to use after the challenge, right?

-Will

william dot trice at ngc dot com

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Old 12-29-2008, 05:47 PM
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On Dec 29, 5:12*am, J...[at]blow.com wrote:

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> I'm someone that is just starting out building a portfolio with an IRA
> I opened. So I guess that would make me an investor


J -

As an investor you should look to financial anlysis first. The often
recommended is "Security Analysis" by Graham, Dodd, Cottle.

Charting plays the moods of the market. It is tricky, but one can pick
up obvious indications from time to time. My favorite is Elliott -
Prechter called the 1987 top almost exactly (with five DJIA points, as
I recall). Back in 2002 he published "Conquer the Crash" in which he
made a strong case for a very big market top, and said FNM and FRE
would get bailed out, talked a lot about safe banks, and basically
predicted what's going on today with astounding accuracy. He ties
Elliott together with financial analysis, IMO.

It still amazes me that it is possible to draw trendlines over a
chart, and see the tops touch the upper line, and the bottoms touch
the bottom line. But go with the financial analysis first. The amount
of work you have to put in is very small compared to the gains you
make. Recently, three people have asked me if now is the time to sell
their funds. I discovered that none of them had any idea what their
funds held! Amazing! I looked at three of the (many) funds and found
very solid companies in them, so I told them not to sell. Then I got
bored doing their work for them.

The current market crash may have charting indicators marking it
(especially in hindsight), but I think it is clear that the financial
aspects of the mess are the motivation for the selling in stocks. So
go for the financial analysis, first, and make that your reason to buy
and hold, and eventually sell.

THAT said, it is possible to pick up strong charting indications of
major tops or bottoms, before these occur, from time to time, and be
aware something might happen. A guy called Larry Williams (commodity
trader) developed a technical indicator he called %R. Many years ago
he accepted a challenge, and turned $10,000 into $1,000,000 in one
year (actually, more like $1,234,000). But ... that's what he does for
a living. And if you look at some of the trades he put on (mostly oil
futures), you see he has a pair. He published a book on it all.

Financial analysis and accounting, first. Then charts.

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Old 12-29-2008, 03:28 PM
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Joe[at]blow.com wrote:

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> > There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted
> > authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave
> > Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read
> > these?

> No but I guess I will need to huh?


Only if you believe that these methods work. To my knowledge, evidence
of their effectiveness does not exist.

-Will

william dot trice at ngc dot com

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Old 12-29-2008, 09:12 AM
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 01:39:14 -0600, dapperdobbs
<GeorgeCFL[at]hotmail.com> wrote:


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> That's a lot to evaluate, including the relative merits of charting
> methods. Charts help, but some skill in interpretation has to be
> there. Do you have any experience with charting?


Nope. A friend suggested that I study that web site as he made some
money in the current market interpreting charts to guide him when he
should buy/sell particular stocks.

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> Which methods are you already familiar with?

Aside from "buy low, sell high" None.

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> Are you basically a trader, or an investor?

I'm someone that is just starting out building a portfolio with an IRA
I opened. So I guess that would make me an investor

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> With that background, you should be able to compare the various charts
> online brokers make available, stockcharts, and decide which you
> prefer.
> There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted
> authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave
> Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read
> these?


No but I guess I will need to huh?

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Old 12-28-2008, 03:08 PM
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Steven
Is that historical pricing data available without cost?
Thx
JD


On Dec 28, 7:26*am, "Steven L." <sdlit...[at]earthlink.net> wrote:
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> J...[at]blow.com wrote:
> > Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
> > to? Are there better/cheaper options?

> I used to like them.
> But that was before I learned how to download historical pricing data
> into Microsoft Excel and other statistical tools. *You can do all your
> own charting and data analysis that way.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:26 AM
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Joe[at]blow.com wrote:
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> Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
> to? Are there better/cheaper options?


I used to like them.

But that was before I learned how to download historical pricing data
into Microsoft Excel and other statistical tools. You can do all your
own charting and data analysis that way.



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Old 12-28-2008, 06:39 AM
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On Dec 27, 4:27*pm, J...[at]blow.com wrote:
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> Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
> to? Are there better/cheaper options?
> Thanks


That's a lot to evaluate, including the relative merits of charting
methods. Charts help, but some skill in interpretation has to be
there. Do you have any experience with charting? Which methods are you
already familiar with? Are you basically a trader, or an investor?
With that background, you should be able to compare the various charts
online brokers make available, stockcharts, and decide which you
prefer.

There are various books on charting available. I believe the accepted
authorities are Martin Pring, or Edwards / Magee, also Elliott Wave
Theory, today principally expounded by Bob Prechter. Have you read
these?

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Old 12-27-2008, 08:27 PM
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Any opinions here about Stockcharts.com? Is it it a worth subscribing
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Thanks

 

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