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Old 10-31-2008, 05:46 PM
dumbstruck
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On Oct 31, 12:35*am, dumbstruck <dumbst...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yippie. On top of that, is this that special year where IRS allows
> spreading the Roth conversion tax across 2 years (without actually
> splitting the transfer)?


Oops, I guess that benefit is set for year 2010 only.

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Old 10-31-2008, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Roth-icize Now?!

On Oct 29, 2:07*pm, Ron Peterson <r...[at]shell.core.com> wrote:
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> Your only risk is not picking the bottom of the market. Make sure that
> your income is low enough to convert.


Yippie. On top of that, is this that special year where IRS allows
spreading the Roth conversion tax across 2 years (without actually
splitting the transfer)?

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:28 PM
jIM
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Default Re: Roth-icize Now?!


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> It may be the ripest of times to convert a traditional IRA to a Roth
> one. Depressed values now mean low conversion tax. Considerable upside
> potential will then be untaxable. But is there an exposure due to your
> conversion taking place in wildly volatile times?
> I did this before within one brokerage, and think I threw a bunch of
> paperwork over the wall way ahead of time. Is there a brokerage that
> would let you set it up, but leave you to pull the trigger or not just
> a day or so ahead? Is it an end of the year thing only? Hard to commit
> ahead for these things when future 30% market swings might have such
> an effect on the tax or advisability of conversion.


I did a partial Roth conversion at T Rowe Price and it took close to 3
weeks to process. It processed on MONDAY this week, getting done a
day before the 2nd largest increase in history. I am anxious to see
other responses.

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: Roth-icize Now?!

On Oct 29, 10:05*am, dumbstruck <dumbst...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> It may be the ripest of times to convert a traditional IRA to a Roth
> one. Depressed values now mean low conversion tax. Considerable upside
> potential will then be untaxable. But is there an exposure due to your
> conversion taking place in wildly volatile times?


Your only risk is not picking the bottom of the market. Make sure that
your income is low enough to convert.

- quote -

> I did this before within one brokerage, and think I threw a bunch of
> paperwork over the wall way ahead of time. Is there a brokerage that
> would let you set it up, but leave you to pull the trigger or not just
> a day or so ahead? Is it an end of the year thing only? Hard to commit
> ahead for these things when future 30% market swings might have such
> an effect on the tax or advisability of conversion.


If you don't have a Roth account now, set one up with your broker. The
transfer can be done in a day and the tax effect will be calculated
for the prices in effect on that day.

Mutual funds might go on a buying spree in the last half of December
to take advantage of low prices, so do your transfer before then.

--
Ron

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Old 10-29-2008, 09:30 PM
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I recently did a Roth conversion "immediately" with Fidelity, over the phone
on a POA account (it took about a half hour of conversation and a couple
of calls, since they wanted me to go through the details with a retirement
specialist, and then back to the rep handling the account). I believe it
was effective either the same day or the next.

Keep in mind that I'd already set up the POA, the traditional IRA, the
receiving Roth IRA, and had ensured that the assets could be transferred in
kind. But no specific conversion paperwork required either before or after.

If you'll pardon a rather morbid pun, it was unfortunately a deathbed
conversion.

Mark Freeland
nNeEwTs[at]nyc.rr.com

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Old 10-29-2008, 02:05 PM
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Default Roth-icize Now?!

It may be the ripest of times to convert a traditional IRA to a Roth
one. Depressed values now mean low conversion tax. Considerable upside
potential will then be untaxable. But is there an exposure due to your
conversion taking place in wildly volatile times?

I did this before within one brokerage, and think I threw a bunch of
paperwork over the wall way ahead of time. Is there a brokerage that
would let you set it up, but leave you to pull the trigger or not just
a day or so ahead? Is it an end of the year thing only? Hard to commit
ahead for these things when future 30% market swings might have such
an effect on the tax or advisability of conversion.

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