On Oct 24, 1:25*pm, beliav...[at]aol.com wrote:
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Check the prospectus and look for at least: a) does the State back the
bond issue, b) are financial statements readily available, c) is their
times interest covered above 4.

Some revenue bonds secure their ratings by bank letter of credit, and
their financials are not easy to come by. Funds invest in these,
excusing themselves on a 'portfolio diversification' rationale.

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Has nothing to do with "some bad eggs of cities". The prices of even AAA
individual munis have been crushed, that is why the yields are so high.

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On Oct 24, 10:42*am, "rick++" <rick...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
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It should be obvious that if some muni funds are losing money, so are
some individual munis. I think if investors buy muni bonds directly
they should give preference to general obligation bonds of their
state. Otherwise they may be taking too much credit risk.

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While individual munis are doing great, some muni FUNDS
have been losing money. Becasue that constained some bad eggs
of cities that have been playing loose with their investments.
I expect many "problem munis" to appear after the current crash.

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On Oct 23, 1:02*pm, Douglas Johnson <p...[at]classtech.com> wrote:
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them in your IRA or 401k. You won't get the tax benefit.

Frank

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Mike <mklostermeyer[at]gmail.com> wrote:


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Vanguard has some first rate muni funds.
-- Doug

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On Oct 22, 2:50*pm, "JBradshaw" <jbrad...[at]dphilneas.nnn> wrote:
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What are some of the preferred methods of buying these types of
muni's? I'm thinking/hoping for an ETF or low cost MF. Thanks.

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On Oct 22, 5:17*pm, "catalpa" <cata...[at]entertab.org> wrote:
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Before buying, make sure to get a prospectus for any bond, and read
it.

Recent government money into the economy may be sopped up into the
vacuum left by the bursting credit bubble, and so may not be
inflationary. "Bailout" funding is an investment, not gov't
consumption. The impact of the huge wealth erosion in the stock market
is not inflationary.

Still, 30 years is a long way out, and inflation is very "big-sticker-
specific" - college cost inflation and health-care inflation is much
higher than CPI, for example. Bond holdings are for shorter-term time
frames of retirees IMO.

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"JBradshaw" <jbradsha[at]dphilneas.nnn> wrote in message
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yield on 30 year treasury 4.05%

yield on 30 year municipal AAA GO 5.89% (taxable equivalent 8.18%, in 28%
bracket)

Muni's are historically very cheap, but can get cheaper. Weak economy does
not bode well budgetwise for state, city and local governments. There will
be a year end scramble for cash, so the best deals for muni buyers may be
available in the weeks up to Dec 31st.

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Some analyst on CNBC had this to say today:

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You really have to start to put some money to work," Dan Genter, of RNC
Genter Capital Management in St. Louis, told CNBC. He advises putting a
third of your money in now, a third in December and a third in January.
"That starts to put you in a big position," Genter said.
He advises investing in high-dividend stocks and says that municipal bonds
are "the sale of the century."

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I'm not sure I follow his rationale re: munis, and I wonder if someone would
explain why he might be thinking this way?



Thanks

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