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| - quote - > I only have ONE fund (and it's a index fund)in my portfilio.
Yes, but the 30 individual companies you have in that particular index> I guess some people would say it's well diversified. (it contains 30 > companies) > on the other hand when I see other people with with 15 (and more)funds > in their portfilio) and would say I have no diversification. > I beleive Buffet is right when he says > “Diversification is insurance against one’s own ignorance” > “Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand > what they are doing.” > CU > John fund may be all large cap, or all value, or all small or all domestic, or whatever (depending on the index you have). You would need to get a total stock/bond domestic/international index fund to capture some of all categories. 30 companiesis not enough, I'm sure. Here's an analogy--you might want to diversify your wardrobe so you buy 30 different colors and styles of shirts. But they are still all shirts, right? No pants or socks or anything else. SandyBeth ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| Hi Bread, BreadWithSpam[at]fractious.net schrieb: - quote - > Turtle <mhauser-rite-on[at]arcor.de> writes:
I only have ONE fund (and it's a index fund)in my portfilio.> Buffett's been recommending index funds for the rest > of us for a very long time, once again as recently > as a few weeks ago: I guess some people would say it's well diversified. (it contains 30 companies) on the other hand when I see other people with with 15 (and more)funds in their portfilio) and would say I have no diversification. I beleive Buffet is right when he says “Diversification is insurance against one’s own ignorance” and “Wide diversification is only required when investors do not understand what they are doing.” CU John ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| Turtle <mhauser-rite-on[at]arcor.de> writes: - quote - > and what do you all thinks of his ideals toward diversification?
I think you're not getting the full picture if you think> http://delwalmsley.org/slog080519.aspx that Buffett doesn't think well of diversification. He believes in moderating risk - and for those who don't understand investments as well as he does, diversification *is* how to do that. (Twain said "Put all your eggs in the one basket -- and watch that basket!". That's basically what Buffett says, except that he recognizes that not everyone actually *can* "watch that basket" - either through ignorance, lack of skill or lack of time.) Buffett's been recommending index funds for the rest of us for a very long time, once again as recently as a few weeks ago: http://seekingalpha.com/article/7556...uy-index-funds or, perhaps better, here: http://www.indexuniverse.com/blog/31...dex-funds.html Note the comment by Jeff Ptak of Morningstar on there: "I was at the meeting and 'just buy index funds' is an incomplete characterization of what Buffett said. Essentially, he divided the investing world into two camps--those who are willing/able to do the work necessary to spot mispricings and capitalize upon them and those who aren't. He advocated index funds for that second group. He didn't prescribe indexing as a blanket formula for all investors to follow. " And here's another quote from an interview with Buffett just after the BRK annual meeting: <http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...B7E303003D4%7D Buffett reiterated his view that for most small investors who don't have time to research individual companies, cheap index funds are the best way to invest in the stock market. "The best way in my view is to just buy a low-cost index fund and keep buying it regularly over time, because you'll be buying into a wonderful industry, which in effect is all of American industry," Buffett told CNBC anchor Liz Claman. This latter quote emphasizing (a) low-costs and (b) diversification. That Del Walmsley blog entry is completely misleading and, in fact, claims a quote from Buffett that as far as I know, he's never actually said. If that's indicative of the quality of his writing and research, I'd look elsewhere. Of course, he's really just pushing his "Lifestyles Unlimited" seminars and membership for real estate investors, not actual long-term financial planning. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| Hello everybody, and what do you all thinks of his ideals toward diversification? http://delwalmsley.org/slog080519.aspx CU John ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Thank you for trying to steer the discussion back to financial planning. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| On May 28, 9:05*am, "Mark Freeland" <nNeE...[at]nyc.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > How do you know that it isn't the other way around? *He speaks the truth (or
I think Daniel was referring to John Stuart Mill’s concept of "homo> at least his perception of it) and invests accordingly, just as any good > capitalist would. *That would make the coinciding of statement and truth > nothing more than the result of good observation skills (which one expects > of a good investor). > Hence the saying: put your money where your mouth is. economicus" and/or Adam Smith's "invisible hand" metaphor from Wealth of Nations. In essence, a rational capitalist will act in his own best interest and by doing so will inadvertently act in the best interest of society as a whole. The simplest example is that a seller ordinarily tries to get the highest price for his good or service and a buyer tries to pay the lowest. The end result is a market equilibrium price. Real life tends to be much more complex, however. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| "Mark Freeland" <nNeEwTs[at]nyc.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > "Daniel T." <daniel_t[at]earthlink.net> wrote:
Because he is one of those few who are in a position to *make* the> > Nonsense, he says what is in his best interest, like any good capitalist > > would. If it happens also to be the truth... Well that's just a happy > > coincidence. > How do you know that it isn't the other way around? He speaks the truth (or > at least his perception of it) and invests accordingly, just as any good > capitalist would. future with his words. That is the point the OP was trying to make. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| "Daniel T." <daniel_t[at]earthlink.net> wrote in message news:daniel_t-6D6CA9.20192627052008[at]earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net... - quote - > Nonsense, he says what is in his best interest, like any good capitalist
How do you know that it isn't the other way around? He speaks the truth (or> would. If it happens also to be the truth... Well that's just a happy > coincidence. at least his perception of it) and invests accordingly, just as any good capitalist would. That would make the coinciding of statement and truth nothing more than the result of good observation skills (which one expects of a good investor). Hence the saying: put your money where your mouth is. Mark Freeland nNeEwTs[at]nyc.rr.com ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| PeterL <po.ning[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > "W. Wells" <ot...[at]nc.rr.com> wrote:
Nonsense, he says what is in his best interest, like any good capitalist> > Buffett is doing his part to talk the economy down. In Germany > > he's saying the American economy is going deeper and longer in > > recession. > > > This all works out for him to get prices down but he does it at > > the cost of the rest of us. > The truth hurts. Buffett can never run for office because he tells > the truth. would. If it happens also to be the truth... Well that's just a happy coincidence. Frankly, dire predictions of the future cannot be called either true or false in my opinion. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| On May 27, 5:16*am, "W. Wells" <ot...[at]nc.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > Buffett is doing his part to talk the economy down. In Germany he's saying > the American economy is going deeper and longer in recession. > This all works out for him to get prices down but he does it at the cost of > the rest of us. > I used to like him but since he has become a socialist I for one am sick of > this *publicity seeking jerk. That goes for Greenspan too. Now I feel > better. The truth hurts. Buffett can never run for office because he tells the truth. ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Posters to this thread should relate comments to general financial planning. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| Buffett is doing his part to talk the economy down. In Germany he's saying the American economy is going deeper and longer in recession. This all works out for him to get prices down but he does it at the cost of the rest of us. I used to like him but since he has become a socialist I for one am sick of this publicity seeking jerk. That goes for Greenspan too. Now I feel better. ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Posters to this thread should relate comments to general financial planning. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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