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| On Mar 6, 7:45*am, Tuxster <cdanajack...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Hi,
I agree with kastnna that your first formula (above) is best. I do try> Which is the "best" formula to use for calculating free cash flow? > I've read about several. > Free cash flow=(operating cash flow)-capital expenditures to analyze companies, and to me it seems obvious that the purpose of depreciation expense is to recognize that producing assets must eventually be replaced. Thus at some point, cash is going to exit the cash account and show up as PP&E (property, plant, & equipment). To get more accurate, one would have to know what estimated replacement costs are, to achieve the same level of unit production, and whether the last few years of cap ex are representative of the next few years, or if a major cap addition is forecast by the company, expected cost recovery, etc.. This would vary from industry to industry, but may be consistent within an industry, so intra-industry company comparison might be useful. Another statement to look at is sources and uses of funds. I don't see how your third formula does not double-count, since changes in working capital could show up in any number of balance sheet accounts, including cap ex, wouldn't it? Caveat! I'm merely an end-user of accounting! A major problem I've run into is trying to dope out what went on in a merger or acquisition, since the details of the acquired company's revenue, net profit, and so on are not always disclosed. And I never know what to think about the usual and sometimes vast additions to Goodwill. Many seasoned accountants have had a lot of trouble figuring out what went on with stock options ;-( I may Google around for an accounting site :-) ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Posters to this thread should relate comments to general financial planning. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| On Mar 6, 6:45*am, Tuxster <cdanajack...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Hi,
If your asking for the purposes of stock price valuation, your first> Which is the "best" formula to use for calculating free cash flow? > I've read about several. > Free cash flow=(operating cash flow)-capital expenditures > OR > Free cash flow=(net income+depreciation)-capital expenditures > OR > Free cash flow=((net income+depreciation)-changes in working capital)- > capital expenditures formula is probably best. Both of the others involve "net income" which can be easily fudged to make a company look better than it truly is. Quick disclaimer: I don't invest in individual stocks and therefore analysis of them is not my forte. My above statement was something I picked up during the healthsouth, tyco, enron et al scandals. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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| Hi, Which is the "best" formula to use for calculating free cash flow? I've read about several. Free cash flow=(operating cash flow)-capital expenditures OR Free cash flow=(net income+depreciation)-capital expenditures OR Free cash flow=((net income+depreciation)-changes in working capital)- capital expenditures That's THREE different formulas! Which of these should I use when I run my discounted cash flow models? I want the one that will give me the truest calculation of a company's free cash flow. Thanks for the help! -Dana ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Posters to this thread should relate comments to general financial planning. ------ Misc.invest.financial-plan is a moderated newsgroup where Moderators strive to keep the conversations on-topic for financial planning. Other posting guidelines include a request for brevity and another for trimming posts to which we respond. For all of the other tips and suggestions, see "FROM THE MODERATORS: Posting to misc.invest.financial-plan", a weekly post now on the Newsgroup. |
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