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Old 12-27-2007, 12:01 PM
iarwain
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Thanks for the responses. I was able to find out that the managers of
the fund are the same as the previous fund, so I'm taking that as a
positive sign. I still can't say I understand exactly what is going
on, but at least I'm satisfied that it has good management, so I'm
going to hold on to it for now at least. Perhaps it is some sort of
fund managed privately for a certain number of companies, as
joetaxpayer suggested. I can't think of a better explanation.

As I said before, the letter we received said basically this would be
the same fund in a different share class. Maybe it's the same/similar
mix, just bigger chunks of it, since the price per share is so much
higher?

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Old 12-22-2007, 07:58 PM
redmonds@sprynet.com
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On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:58:59 -0600, joetaxpayer
<joetaxpayer[at]nospam.com> wrote:



- quote -

> You need to ask questions through your company's 401(k) administrators.
> The people at your company who interface with the plan administrator
> have a legal obligation to provide a sufficient explanation about
> changes like this. I can guess, that they shifted to a privately managed
> mirror fund, i.e. similar objectives and perhaps the same exact mix, but
> managed just for your company 401(k) plan. Many 401(k) offerings are not
> of a publicly traded fund and cannot be looked up via ticker.
> JOE
> www.blog.joetaxpayer.com


Joe is right. It is appalling that so many people are driven to
public discussions to try to understand things that employers are
obligated to fully explain. It is very possible that the new fund is
a non-retail offering without a ticker symbol. In that case the 401K
administrators should certainly have 24-7 realtime access to the fund
value together with fund description information. It is also possible
for employees to not be aware of where their fund information is
located.

Note that in many cases special institutional funds are lower cost and
definitely to the benefit of the investors -- or not.

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Old 12-22-2007, 06:34 PM
Elle
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Just a friendly suggestion: Try googling. No guarantees, but
the following may shed a little light on the situation:

http://us-funds.jbfundnet.com/funds/...PUB_FONDSKURSE

http://www.kiplinger.com/columns/val...006/va1120.htm

"iarwain" <iarwain_8[at]hotmail.com> wrote
- quote -

> We did have the Julius Baer International Equity II - I
> mutual fund
> available (JETIX). We no longer have that and instead
> have something
> called Julius Baer International Equity II. JETIX had
> been trading at
> around $17 a share, while this one trades at about $115.
> Obviously
> this is a bigger change than what I expected, but what
> disturbs me
> most is there is no ticker symbol available for the new
> fund. So how
> do I look up how it's doing? Does anyone understand
> exactly what the
> change was here? Are the two funds related, or even the
> same somehow,
> but different?


 
Old 12-22-2007, 05:58 PM
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iarwain wrote:

- quote -

> We did have the Julius Baer International Equity II - I mutual fund
> available (JETIX). We no longer have that and instead have something
> called Julius Baer International Equity II. JETIX had been trading at
> around $17 a share, while this one trades at about $115. Obviously
> this is a bigger change than what I expected, but what disturbs me
> most is there is no ticker symbol available for the new fund. So how
> do I look up how it's doing? Does anyone understand exactly what the
> change was here? Are the two funds related, or even the same somehow,
> but different?


You need to ask questions through your company's 401(k) administrators.
The people at your company who interface with the plan administrator
have a legal obligation to provide a sufficient explanation about
changes like this. I can guess, that they shifted to a privately managed
mirror fund, i.e. similar objectives and perhaps the same exact mix, but
managed just for your company 401(k) plan. Many 401(k) offerings are not
of a publicly traded fund and cannot be looked up via ticker.

JOE
www.blog.joetaxpayer.com

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Old 12-22-2007, 05:29 PM
iarwain
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Default Share Class

I was wondering if someone could explain what has happened here. My
401k plan at work has changed one of our investment options. From
reading the letter they sent out, I took it that they were going to be
changing the share class of the investment. I thought that meant
basically there would be a change in the way the fees were collected.
Maybe I was mistaken.

We did have the Julius Baer International Equity II - I mutual fund
available (JETIX). We no longer have that and instead have something
called Julius Baer International Equity II. JETIX had been trading at
around $17 a share, while this one trades at about $115. Obviously
this is a bigger change than what I expected, but what disturbs me
most is there is no ticker symbol available for the new fund. So how
do I look up how it's doing? Does anyone understand exactly what the
change was here? Are the two funds related, or even the same somehow,
but different?

 

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