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| Bond funds in general have done poorly this year. Funds of all lengths could be holding subprime. Only pure treasuries may be immune. |
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| On Sep 19, 1:45 pm, spasmous <spasm...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I own Fidelity intermediate term treasuries (http://finance.yahoo.com/
The rates on intermediate treasuries already dropped end of August/> q?d=t&s=FIBIX) and kind of expected to get a bump yesterday with the > drop in interest rates. Just wondering why it only shifted a penny - > the "rules" clearly state that when interest rates go down, bonds go > up. It's not fair ![]() beginning of September. You might say the Fed Rate cut just caught up to the real rate cut caused by market forces. |
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| spasmous <spasmous[at]gmail.com> writes: - quote - > I own Fidelity intermediate term treasuries (http://finance.yahoo.com/
The bulk of that fund matures in 2013-2016 and the bulk of> q?d=t&s=FIBIX) and kind of expected to get a bump yesterday with the > drop in interest rates. Just wondering why it only shifted a penny - the sensitivity then is to the treasury curve around the 6 to 9 year point. The curve didn't *all* move the same way yesterday. Short rates went down and, actually, the rate on the 30yr went *up*. Around the 10 year mark, rates stayed about the same (no more than about a 1 bp move on the day). The "duration" of that fund is on the order of 6 yrs, so if rates *uniformly* moved by, say, 10bps down, you could expect the value of your fund to go up by approx 0.6% (which is still only about 6 cents per share on that fund), but that's only a rough approximation, and there's a reason it's called a yield curve, not a singular point yield - it doesn't all move the same way at the same time. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting |
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| spasmous <spasmous[at]gmail.com> writes: - quote - > I own Fidelity intermediate term treasuries (http://finance.yahoo.com/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ - quote - > q?d=t&s=FIBIX) and kind of expected to get a bump yesterday with the
The Fed cut the rate on overnight loans. You're invested> drop in interest rates. Just wondering why it only shifted a penny - > the "rules" clearly state that when interest rates go down, bonds go > up. It's not fair ![]() in an intermediate-term bond fund. The former has no necessary effect on the latter, especially since once you get to the prices of bonds with more than a few months to maturity, the market sets the price (yield), not the Fed. -- Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com |
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| I own Fidelity intermediate term treasuries (http://finance.yahoo.com/ q?d=t&s=FIBIX) and kind of expected to get a bump yesterday with the drop in interest rates. Just wondering why it only shifted a penny - the "rules" clearly state that when interest rates go down, bonds go up. It's not fair ![]() |
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