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Old 05-03-2007, 10:32 AM
Gil Faver
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100


"Don" <dwzimm[at]telus.net> wrote in message news:di8_h.101$Vi6.10[at]edtnps82...
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> "spasmous" <spasmous[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1178070674.517794.256410[at]y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
> > What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
> > rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
> > need 10-to-1 or better.

> I would bet 10 to 1 that the guy who took your bet would never pay you a
> dime even if you did live to 59 1/2.


I bet some of the guys who would make that bet with you would make SURE you
didn't live to 59 1/2.

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Old 05-02-2007, 10:50 PM
Dave Dodson
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

On May 2, 4:02 am, spasmous <spasm...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
> What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
> rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
> need 10-to-1 or better.


To give you odds, I need to know your current age.

Dave

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Old 05-02-2007, 10:30 PM
Don
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

"spasmous" <spasmous[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
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> A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
> What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
> rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
> need 10-to-1 or better.


I would bet 10 to 1 that the guy who took your bet would never pay you a
dime even if you did live to 59 1/2.

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Old 05-02-2007, 10:29 PM
Don
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100


"spasmous" <spasmous[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178070674.517794.256410[at]y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
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> A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
> What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
> rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
> need 10-to-1 or better.


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Old 05-02-2007, 04:05 PM
kastnna
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

On May 2, 8:48 am, Dave Dodson <dave_and_da...[at]Juno.com> wrote:
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> On May 2, 8:27 am, kastnna <kast...[at]auburnalum.org> wrote:
> > On May 2, 4:02 am, spasmous <spasm...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.

> > By the by, the old guy got screwed. $50k on $200k is a 1-to-4 payout.

> Oops. The OP said $200, not $200k. That does make it a pretty good
> return on investment: 50000/200 = 25,000%.
> Dave


Oh yeah, my bad. That is a pretty good bet (250-to-1)!

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Old 05-02-2007, 01:48 PM
Dave Dodson
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

On May 2, 8:27 am, kastnna <kast...[at]auburnalum.org> wrote:
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> On May 2, 4:02 am, spasmous <spasm...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
> > A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.

> By the by, the old guy got screwed. $50k on $200k is a 1-to-4 payout.


Oops. The OP said $200, not $200k. That does make it a pretty good
return on investment: 50000/200 = 25,000%.

Dave

 
Old 05-02-2007, 01:27 PM
kastnna
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Default Re: How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

On May 2, 4:02 am, spasmous <spasm...[at]gmail.com> wrote:
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> A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
> What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
> rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
> need 10-to-1 or better.


I am hoping your joking, but regardless you would never get 10 to 1
odds from anybody that can do math. That implies that to break even
the house would require that only 9% of the population to live to age
59.5 Suppose 11 people make that bet: 10 die, and 1 makes it (9%
survival rate). The house has paid out $1M and taken in $1M (10x
$100k). Far more than 9% of the population will make it to 59.5.

If 50% of the US population reaches their mid-80s (a fact) then I'm
speculating that 75% or so reach 59 1/2. The breakeven odds on those
assumptions is a 1-to-3 payoff ($33k return on a $100k bet).

By the by, the old guy got screwed. $50k on $200k is a 1-to-4 payout.
Even if only 1 out of 5 bettors aged 90 died before 100, they house
would break even. However, only 50% of them will statistically live to
age 94 (I wonder if they gave him a medical exam beforehand?). If
enough people made that bet to allow the law of large numbers to play
out, the house would make a killing.

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Old 05-02-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default How about this investment? $200 that you live to 100

A man aged 90 bet $200 that he'd live to 100, then did and won $50k.
What if I bet $100k (my entire net worth) that I'd live to 59 1/2
rather than put money in my 401k...? You think I'd get good odds? I
need 10-to-1 or better.

 

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