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Old 01-12-2007, 08:13 PM
Todd H.
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Default Re: 401k rollover into 401k or IRA question

"gmcenroe" <g.mcenroe[at]comcast.net> writes:

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> I left my current employer with ~$200,000 in my 401k plan. I am 49
> years old. My new employer has a 401k plan which I plan to contribute
> to its maximum. Here are my questions:
> 1) Should I rollover my 401k into my new employer 401k? or
> 2) Should I rollover into an IRA , I'm thinking Vanguard mutual fund?
> 3) If I choose to rollover into an IRA, can I move these funds to a new
> IRA if I am not happy
> with the current IRA without penalty?
> 4) At what age can I withdraw funds from an IRA vs. 401k without
> penalty?
> 5) Besides expenses how should I compare IRA vs. 401k to make the best
> decision?
> 6) What are disadvantages/advantages of IRA vs. 401k?


I rolled my prior employer 401k into a Rollover IRA at the discount
broker with whom I had an existing relationship.

I did so for all the flexibility and investment options (some
employers like to dumb down and limit their investment options and try
to parent their employees to minimize risk, or sometimes just to limit
their own administration costs of the plan), and for being free of
having to roll things over again if I changed employers.

I'd be hesitant to roll all that money into a single mutual fund
company's account.

I'm curious about your other questions too, as I didn't consider them
when I made my choice. I was _that _motivated to be free of an
employer's restrictions on investment choices and have an account with
the discount brokerage of my choosing. :-)

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

 
Old 01-12-2007, 08:10 PM
joetaxpayer
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Default Re: 401k rollover into 401k or IRA question

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> I left my current employer with ~$200,000 in my 401k plan. I am 49
> years old. My new employer has a 401k plan which I plan to contribute
> to its maximum. Here are my questions:
> 1) Should I rollover my 401k into my new employer 401k?

maybe

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> 2) Should I rollover into an IRA , I'm thinking Vanguard mutual fund?

well, vanguard has good choices, but why limit yourself? You can choose
a broker that would give you a wider choice

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> 3) If I choose to rollover into an IRA, can I move these funds to a new
> IRA if I am not happy
> with the current IRA without penalty?


Check with the custodian, some have a $25-50 "goodbye" fee

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> 4) At what age can I withdraw funds from an IRA vs. 401k without
> penalty?


The standard IRA answer is 59-1/2, but if you take equal distributions
over at least 5 years or age 59-1/2 whichever is later, you can avoid
penalty. 401(k) is 55 but only if you retire from that employer. i.e.
that option isn't available to you.

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> 5) Besides expenses how should I compare IRA vs. 401k to make the best
> decision?


In my January article http://www.joetaxpayer.com/401rip.html I discuss
401(k) fees, of course that's only one aspect of it, though. The choices
make a difference, too. If the new employer offers a selection that
offer you diversification, and the total costs are low, it may be a good
choice.

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> 6) What are disadvantages/advantages of IRA vs. 401k?

Well, this was my 'maybe'. Do you currently have any IRA money? You see,
IRA offers a choice to move money into a Roth IRA which essentially
accelerates the tax hit, but then allows further growth untaxed right
till and after you die. If you have IRA money that's post tax, you can
move it to a Roth regardless of your income in 2010, only the gains in
the account are taxed. If you roll the 401(k) to an IRA, you then have
all that money and it will be prorated. This is a convoluted situation
which, as we approach 2010 (or if you are below the cutoff now) deserves
attention. IRAs also tend to be easier on your heirs, if that makes a
difference. Although the law changed so heirs (non-spouse too) may roll
a 401(k) to an IRA and stretch withdrawals.

JOE


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> Thanks,
> Glenn


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Old 01-12-2007, 07:33 PM
gmcenroe
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Default 401k rollover into 401k or IRA question

I left my current employer with ~$200,000 in my 401k plan. I am 49
years old. My new employer has a 401k plan which I plan to contribute
to its maximum. Here are my questions:

1) Should I rollover my 401k into my new employer 401k? or
2) Should I rollover into an IRA , I'm thinking Vanguard mutual fund?
3) If I choose to rollover into an IRA, can I move these funds to a new
IRA if I am not happy
with the current IRA without penalty?
4) At what age can I withdraw funds from an IRA vs. 401k without
penalty?
5) Besides expenses how should I compare IRA vs. 401k to make the best
decision?
6) What are disadvantages/advantages of IRA vs. 401k?

Thanks,
Glenn

 

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