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| Ron Peterson wrote: - quote - > joetaxpayer wrote:
Not within the spreadsheet I wrote. At 40, it's tough to say whether one> > The method I prefer is this; > > A spreadsheet with current age, income, savings rate (including company > > match on 401, if any) and assumed rate of return. Last column calculates > > the ratio of net savings to income. This is the number I've chased since > > graduating college and starting a real job. > > Starting at 22, saving 15%, 8%/yr return, one should see that by 30, > > there's about 1.6 year's income as savings, by 40, 4.5 year's worth, 50, > > just over 9, and 20X by 64. > > Now, given that any one of these variables can change, this spreadsheet > > isn't static. I also don't presume that everyone would need 20X their > > final year earnings to retire. And the debates here ranged from 50%-100% > > replacement target. But when a 40 year old tells me he has less than a > > year's income as savings, when I'm looking at a target of 4.5, I can > > tell him he has some catching up to do. > Yes, your method is better. Do you include home equity as part of > savings? would plan to downsize at retirement, but it's easy enough to account for it. My house is now valued at about 4x my family income. I can say that a downsize (it will be paid off well before I retire) pulls out about half that. So, in today's dollars I'm that much further along toward the retirement target. JOE |
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| joetaxpayer wrote: - quote - > The method I prefer is this;
Yes, your method is better. Do you include home equity as part of> A spreadsheet with current age, income, savings rate (including company > match on 401, if any) and assumed rate of return. Last column calculates > the ratio of net savings to income. This is the number I've chased since > graduating college and starting a real job. > Starting at 22, saving 15%, 8%/yr return, one should see that by 30, > there's about 1.6 year's income as savings, by 40, 4.5 year's worth, 50, > just over 9, and 20X by 64. > Now, given that any one of these variables can change, this spreadsheet > isn't static. I also don't presume that everyone would need 20X their > final year earnings to retire. And the debates here ranged from 50%-100% > replacement target. But when a 40 year old tells me he has less than a > year's income as savings, when I'm looking at a target of 4.5, I can > tell him he has some catching up to do. savings? -- Ron |
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| "joetaxpayer" <joetaxpayer[at]nospam.com> wrote in message news:K6-dnaCuPq9dpzjZnZ2dnUVZ_oudnZ2d[at]comcast.com... - quote - > Ron Peterson wrote:
you miss the point. they want you to contact one of their> > Business Week mentioned http://www.nesteggscore.com/ as an online > > calculator from A. G. Edwards to determine how well you are building > > wealth. > > > It doesn't add much insight, but it gives one a way to compare > > themselves with others. > > It too vauge to be of any use, I'm afraid. > The inputs have too wide a range for the result to have any meaning, nor > does it suggest how to improve the results. sales reps. |
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| Ron Peterson wrote: - quote - > Business Week mentioned http://www.nesteggscore.com/ as an online
It too vauge to be of any use, I'm afraid.> calculator from A. G. Edwards to determine how well you are building > wealth. > It doesn't add much insight, but it gives one a way to compare > themselves with others. The inputs have too wide a range for the result to have any meaning, nor does it suggest how to improve the results. The method I prefer is this; A spreadsheet with current age, income, savings rate (including company match on 401, if any) and assumed rate of return. Last column calculates the ratio of net savings to income. This is the number I've chased since graduating college and starting a real job. Starting at 22, saving 15%, 8%/yr return, one should see that by 30, there's about 1.6 year's income as savings, by 40, 4.5 year's worth, 50, just over 9, and 20X by 64. Now, given that any one of these variables can change, this spreadsheet isn't static. I also don't presume that everyone would need 20X their final year earnings to retire. And the debates here ranged from 50%-100% replacement target. But when a 40 year old tells me he has less than a year's income as savings, when I'm looking at a target of 4.5, I can tell him he has some catching up to do. JOE |
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| Ron Peterson wrote: - quote - > Business Week mentioned http://www.nesteggscore.com/ as an online
average".> calculator from A. G. Edwards to determine how well you are building > wealth. > It doesn't add much insight, but it gives one a way to compare > themselves with others. > -- > Ron Scored a 676 and I have no idea what that means, other than I am "above Considering I closed a new house this year (and have not built up much equity in it), I think there are more detailed questions it could ask. I'd also like to see scores as they correlate to income. I think for people which have the income I do, I score HIGH, but it's much easier for people which earn more to have a higher savings amount. |
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| "Ron Peterson" <ron[at]shell.core.com> wrote in message news:1151640864.841750.254680[at]x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... - quote - > Business Week mentioned http://www.nesteggscore.com/ as an
It shows that a retired person with more than a million inonline > calculator from A. G. Edwards to determine how well you are building > wealth. > It doesn't add much insight, but it gives one a way to compare > themselves with others. household income would have a significantly higher score if he participated in a retirement program at work or invested in an IRA. Of course, that is impossible. Oh well, its just a rule of thumb. |
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| Business Week mentioned http://www.nesteggscore.com/ as an online calculator from A. G. Edwards to determine how well you are building wealth. It doesn't add much insight, but it gives one a way to compare themselves with others. -- Ron |
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