Go Back   CDN Business Directory > Main Category > Financial Planning

 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-08-2006, 10:54 PM
Rich Carreiro
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: SEP versus SIMPLE

"emailforian[at]gmail.com" <emailforian[at]gmail.com> writes:

- quote -

> Al wrote:
> > My self employed wife makes $37,000 and after deductions her net
> > income is $7,000. Her SEP only allows her to contribute 25%, which
> > isn't very much.
> > Would a SIMPLE plan be more advantageous? Does a SIMPLE plan work for
> > an individual self-employed person.
> > Is a SIMPLE plan simple?
> > > Thanks,

> > AL D

> Currently, you are allowed to contribute up to $10k per year to a
> SIMPLE IRA plan, and the employer is normally required to match your
> contributions up to 3 percent of your gross compensation. Assuming


Why would a sole proprietor with no employees (which is what I draw
from the original post) not use a solo/self-employed 401(k) instead of
a SEP-IRA or SIMPLE plan? A solo 401(k) is (in terms of limits)
basically a SEP-IRA plus an elective contribution of up to $15,000.

The solo 401(k) allows you to to contribute $15,000 plus 20%[*] of
adjusted profit (net business profit minus one-half of the SE tax), up
to a max of around $46,000, though the total contribution can't be any
more than the adjusted profit.

For someone with a net of $7,000, a solo 401(k) would let her
contribute about $6,500 (the "employee deferral" part of the allowable
contribution eats up all the adjusted profit, so no "profit sharing"
part is allowed).

For someone with a net of $37000, a solo 401(k) would let her
contribute about $21877 (which is the $15000 "employee deferral" part
of the contribution plus a $6877 "profit sharing" part of the
contribution).
[*] The literature will say 25%, but for sole proprietors, the figure
you take the 25% of has to be reduced by the amount of the "profit
sharing" contribution itself, resulting in a circular calculation.
When you work through the algebra, it comes out to an effective rate
of 20%. See IRS Pub 560 for confirmation.

--
Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

 
Old 06-08-2006, 09:26 PM
emailforian@gmail.com
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: SEP versus SIMPLE


Al wrote:
- quote -

> My self employed wife makes $37,000 and after deductions her net
> income is $7,000. Her SEP only allows her to contribute 25%, which
> isn't very much.
> Would a SIMPLE plan be more advantageous? Does a SIMPLE plan work for
> an individual self-employed person.
> Is a SIMPLE plan simple?
> Thanks,
> AL D


Currently, you are allowed to contribute up to $10k per year to a
SIMPLE IRA plan, and the employer is normally required to match your
contributions up to 3 percent of your gross compensation. Assuming
your wife is self employed and earns 37k, she could therefore
contribute a total of $11,100 per year to a SIMPLE IRA plan. And yes,
the plan is very simple to set up and maintain, and I know that Schwab
(as an example) does not charge a fee to set it up and maintain it.

  #-1  
Old 06-05-2006, 03:38 PM
Al
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default SEP versus SIMPLE

My self employed wife makes $37,000 and after deductions her net
income is $7,000. Her SEP only allows her to contribute 25%, which
isn't very much.
Would a SIMPLE plan be more advantageous? Does a SIMPLE plan work for
an individual self-employed person.
Is a SIMPLE plan simple?

Thanks,
AL D

 

Tags
sep, simple, versus
Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
OFX versus QIF
David Walker: I understand that OFX is generally better than QIF for downloading. BUT, when I use my debit card at the local Albertson's grocery store, the...
Microsoft Money 2 01-09-2008 11:02 PM
Simple IRA versus 401k
winterqqqq@hotmail.com: What are the guidelines/thresholds/rules of thumb that would help an employer to determine when a Simple IRA or a 401K is the better way to go. ...
Financial Planning 2 09-23-2005 09:45 PM
S versus C corp
Karl Irvin: Corp is is currently an S corp. Accounting method is accrual S corp return shows no profit after 800k salary to owner Owner wants to take out all...
Taxes 3 04-17-2005 05:07 AM
Two simple SIMPLE-IRA questions
gindie: 1) Self-employed, no other employees. I understand that both the employee and employer SIMPLE contributions go on 1040 line 30. Nothing goes on...
Taxes 1 02-04-2004 02:16 AM



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

All times are GMT. The time now is 11:37 PM.