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Old 03-17-2006, 12:38 AM
Will Trice
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nickravo wrote:
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> That's it. If figure if it's a long-term hold in the IRA you'll come
> out ahead, no? No IRA rule?


You'd have to be investing in a pretty tax-inefficient manner in your
taxable account to make the IRA come out ahead in this example.

-Will

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Old 03-15-2006, 09:15 AM
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That's it. If figure if it's a long-term hold in the IRA you'll come
out ahead, no? No IRA rule?

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Old 03-14-2006, 05:23 PM
Rich Carreiro
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"nickravo" <nickravo[at]gmail.com> writes:

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> Could I just employ my wife as a factchecker, cons8ultant or something,
> pay her 10k from my taxable savings account and the she would put in in
> a tax-deferred IRA? Caveats? I am assuming this is a problem, but maybe
> not, who knows?


You'll have to pay FICA/self-employment taxes, for starters.

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Old 03-14-2006, 04:32 PM
nickravo
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Default Re: Using Savings to fund a SIMPLE IRA

Could I just employ my wife as a factchecker, cons8ultant or something,
pay her 10k from my taxable savings account and the she would put in in
a tax-deferred IRA? Caveats? I am assuming this is a problem, but maybe
not, who knows?

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Old 03-13-2006, 09:01 AM
Sgt.Sausage
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"nickravo" <nickravo[at]gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142169787.473625.213380[at]p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
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> We can put $7k a year in profits from sidleine work into a SIMPLE IRA,
> I understand. Does it make sense to take money out of a taxable mutual
> fund/bank account and put it in a tax-deferred account. Sure I get the
> tax deferred growth, but I'm paying future taxes on more money, right?
> What's the math on this?



7K was the limit back in 2002. The limit is (as of 2005) 10K.


 
Old 03-13-2006, 01:19 AM
Will Trice
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Default Re: Using Savings to fund a SIMPLE IRA



nickravo wrote:
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> We can put $7k a year in profits from sidleine work into a SIMPLE IRA,
> I understand. Does it make sense to take money out of a taxable mutual
> fund/bank account and put it in a tax-deferred account. Sure I get the
> tax deferred growth, but I'm paying future taxes on more money, right?
> What's the math on this?


You're right that there is a trade-off here. If the assets you invest
in are tax efficient and/or your time horizon is short, it is possible
to do better after taxes outside of a tax-deferred account. This is
because you convert capital gains taxes into income taxes. It depends
on many factors including what you invest in (or more accurately, the
tax efficiency of what you invest in), your time horizon, your marginal
tax rate in retirement (which is a true unknown), your rate of return,
and the deductibilty of your current IRA contributions (and then your
current marginal tax rate, and your choices for investing the tax savings).

In general, longer time before withdrawal, higher rates of return,
higher current tax rates, lower retirement tax rates, and lower tax
efficiency of investments all favor the IRA. For long time horizons,
you'll have to be pretty darn tax efficent to beat the IRA in a taxable
account (or expect to have a really high retirement tax rate).

This is all really academic, though. If you have the opportunity to
invest in an IRA, why not put additional funds in instead of moving
already saved funds between accounts? This will make a vastly greater
difference to your nest egg than just shuffling money around.

-Will

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Old 03-12-2006, 12:33 PM
nickravo
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Default Using Savings to fund a SIMPLE IRA

We can put $7k a year in profits from sidleine work into a SIMPLE IRA,
I understand. Does it make sense to take money out of a taxable mutual
fund/bank account and put it in a tax-deferred account. Sure I get the
tax deferred growth, but I'm paying future taxes on more money, right?
What's the math on this?

 

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