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| "Dave Dodson" <dave_and_darla[at]Juno.com> wrote in message news:1139940979.685335.69210[at]f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... - quote - > Let's define some symbols: P0 = the initial principal in the fixed
Yes, but where did that come from? - solving it is the easy part :-).> account ($10,000 in your example), A = the initial amount withdrawn > ($500), r = the rate of increase of the withdrawal (5%), and n = the > number of years. Then we need to solve the equation > A * ((1+r)^n - 1) / r = P0. The withdrawal at the end of year 1 is $500 The withdrawal at the end of year 2 is $500 * (1 + 5%) The withdrawal at the end of year 3 is $500 * (1 + 5%) ^ 2, ... The total withdrawals are $500 * [1 + (1 + 5%)^1 + (1+5%)^2 + ... + (1 + 5%)^(n-1) ] or algebraically, A * [ 1 + (1+r)^1 + (1+r)^2 + ... + (1+r)^(n-1)] Using the formula for the value of a finite geometric series http://mathworld.wolfram.com/GeometricSeries.html we get the expression on the left hand side. - quote - > Thus, n = int(log(P0*r/A + 1) / log(1+r))
Log can be any base - base 10, base e, base 2, it doesn't matter.> Here, int() is the greatest integer function, and log is the base-10 > logarithm. As this is misc.invest.financial-plan, where would such a situation arise, where a drawing account were effectively kept under a pillow (i.e. in a non-interest bearing account)? I can't see that happening in a trust (fiduciary duty to invest prudently), but I suppose it might happen in some business accounts? -- Mark Freeland nNeEwTs[at]sonic.net |
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| Let's define some symbols: P0 = the initial principal in the fixed account ($10,000 in your example), A = the initial amount withdrawn ($500), r = the rate of increase of the withdrawal (5%), and n = the number of years. Then we need to solve the equation A * ((1+r)^n - 1) / r = P0. Thus, n = int(log(P0*r/A + 1) / log(1+r)) Here, int() is the greatest integer function, and log is the base-10 logarithm. In your example, n = 14 years. There would be a small balance in the account that would be insufficient to make the next year's distribution. Dave |
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| Does anybody know the formula for time to exhaust a fixed account value based on compound spending? E.g, you have a fixed $10,000 account, and spend $500 the first year, increasing at 5% per year. What's the formula to calculate how long the account will last? I looked around and can't find it; only formulas for compound interest. Looking for the actual formula, not an automatic calculator. -- Joe D. |
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