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| Bob, Ok, thanks for the info on stable value. Then the only concern I have for your portfolio is your mix of equity and debt exposure to the Pacific Basin. That could be a non-issue. Nice work! |
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| Jason wrote: - quote - > Bob,
Actually, I have a strong bias towards "value" equities, and I think> Your current holdings scare me. You have 84% of your holdings mainly > in US Large Cap Equities. Yikes! > Your planned holdings look ok. You do have a strong bias towards > income providing funds, which is conservitive at your age. dividends are a good thing. (creative accountants and CEO's can manufacture "earnings" out of thin air, but it's hard to fake a dividend.) - quote - > What is the difference between the equity income fund, and the stable
The Stable Value fund is a bond fund. Well, not exactly; it is a debt> value fund? My guess is that they share a lot of similar holdings. I > would call that 50% US Large Cap Value, which is still to high. > I like the Small Cap Value, and the REIT. Good allocations for your > age. fund. It has chugged along earning 5 to 8 percent (usually closer to 6%) for years, independant of the bond market or equities markets: "The Stable Value Fund seeks to preserve principal and provide income at a stable rate of interest that is competitive with intermediate-term rates of return. The fund invests in fixed-income securities and book value wrap contracts issued by banks and insurance companies, which provide for the payment of a specified rate of interest and for participant withdrawals at book value (i.e. principal plus interest). The wrap contracts provide a rate of interest that will generally reflect movements in market rates of interest, but which may at any time be more or less than the actual income earned by the fixed income securities." Best regards, Bob |
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| Bob, I'll leave your financial relationship with your wife out of any advice here.... ![]() Your current holdings scare me. You have 84% of your holdings mainly in US Large Cap Equities. Yikes! Your planned holdings look ok. You do have a strong bias towards income providing funds, which is conservitive at your age. What is the difference between the equity income fund, and the stable value fund? My guess is that they share a lot of similar holdings. I would call that 50% US Large Cap Value, which is still to high. I like the Small Cap Value, and the REIT. Good allocations for your age. I would look a little further into the holdings of the emerging markets bonds, and the Pacific Basin index. If your bonds fund is more then 50% exposed to the Pacific Basin, I would opt for more of a latin america debt fund if you want to stay forign. Then again, I dont like forign debt securities. They are far more risky then US Debt securities (one nice thing about the SEC). If I were your age I would have the following: US Large Cap Value - 25% US Small Cap Growth - 15% REIT - 10% International Fund - 20% I-Bonds - 15% High Yield Fund - 15% - quote - > I just looked up my current 401(k) holdings: > Large Cap Index fund 71% > Stable Value fund 13% > Small/Medium Cap Index 12% > Total Bond Market 2% > Employer Stock 2% > I'm thinking of not moving any money around within the account but > changing my future contributions to something like this: > Equity Income fund 35% > Small-Cap Value 20% > Stable Value fund 15% > Hi-Yield & Emerging Mkt Bonds 10% > REIT index 10% > Pacific Basin Stock Inx 10% |
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| x-no-archive: yes allgyerj[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > bob,
46 years young ;-) Married. One kid that'll be going to college in a> Whats your age? Allocation? Risk tollerance? couple of years. About $40000 in mutual funds/I-bonds/EE-bonds earmarked for college, and I've stopped contributing to all the college funds and plan to pay-as-we-go for college expenses and let DD get a student loan if there's not enough money. I put 6% of my salary in the 401(k) to capture the entire employer match, then I max out my Roth IRA, and I've just recently upped my 401(k) from 6% to 10% pretax withholding. I can't accurately access my own risk tolerance, so here's a lot of relevant info: I have no debt whatsoever, although my wife has a lot of credit card debt on cards in her name only that she doesn't think I know about. I closed all the joint credit accounts a few years ago and it took me about a year to pay them all off. Apparently, my retirement savings are supposed to cover both of us because she has not contributed anything at all to her retirement accounts that I seeded a long time ago. We don't talk much about money. I'm not sure what happens to her unsecured debts if she dies before I do, but I'll worry about that if/when the time comes. About 15% of my liquid assets are in short-term CD's right now, earning pitiful interest. I have a taxable account that is mostly in dividend-paying large caps, although I've been selling off a few positions lately and buying preferred stocks and exchange-traded debt securities (and I plow the income back into more investments) Every time I've tried to dabble in small or mid-cap individual stocks I've gotten burned -- probably because I'm a sucker for "value traps". Most of my Roth IRA is in foreign stocks right now. I'm getting nervous about my largest 2 holdings because they are up so much in the past 2 years, but they still look cheap to me. I just looked up my current 401(k) holdings: Large Cap Index fund 71% Stable Value fund 13% Small/Medium Cap Index 12% Total Bond Market 2% Employer Stock 2% I'm thinking of not moving any money around within the account but changing my future contributions to something like this: Equity Income fund 35% Small-Cap Value 20% Stable Value fund 15% Hi-Yield & Emerging Mkt Bonds 10% REIT index 10% Pacific Basin Stock Inx 10% This looks kind of risky, but remember that I still have most of the existing funds in large-cap index and stable value funds. I'll probably need to rebalance it again in a few years. So, wha'd'ya think? (snip most of this info when you reply, I don't really want it archived) Thanks. Best regards, Bob |
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| bob, Whats your age? Allocation? Risk tollerance? |
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| - quote - > I have way too high percentage in large cap USA stocks.
Why not tell us your age and the percentage of assets in eachinvestment or investment class and let us comment on your asset allocation in whole? For example, I am 63 years old. My retirement assets are allocated as follows: 60% in U.S. equities 13% in foreign equities 10% in bonds 5% in commodity linked notes 5% in floating rate notes 4% in REITs 3% in cash I expect to continue a similar allocation well into my retirement years. Dave |
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| zxcvbob wrote: - quote - > I have way too high percentage in large cap USA stocks.
Why not tell us your age and what percentages you have in whatinvestments so we can comment on your asset allocation in general. Example: I am 63 years old, have 58% of my retirement assets in domestic stocks, 13% in foreign stocks, |
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| I think using stable value fund+stocks while still working is a reasonable direction. I don't plan on using bond funds until I am fully retired and need the income. Bonds offer good alternatives to stocks for diversification purposes, but my strategy is to put around 90% of my investments into stocks, the other 10% in to cash, then using the cash to buy more stocks when the market takes a dive... avoid bonds until you need INCOME is my advice |
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| "Bucky" <uw_badgers[at]email.com> wrote - quote - > anoop wrote:
Typically, as interest rates rise, the NAV drops and the> > > I-Bonds are OK. I personally don't like TIPS. While interest > > > rates have been going up, the return on FINPX has been falling. > > > What kind of inflation protection is that? :-) > A bond fund's price will initially drop when interest rates rise > (that's how bonds work). But later (probably within a few months), the > return will be greater because the yield is higher. yield rises in fairly direct proportion to the NAV drop, even for inflation protected bonds. So as another poster pointed out recently, buying bond funds during a low, but rising, interest rate environment will lock in an interest rate on the original principal. I checked this reality not long ago. It's an argument for staying out of intermediate and long-term bond funds right now. |
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| zxcvbob <zxcvbob[at]charter.net> writes: - quote - > with I-bonds currently yielding over 9%, the inflation protected bonds
I-bonds are not "currently yielding over 9%". I-bonds purchased fromNov 2000 and April 2001 are currently yielding over 9%, because those bonds are CPI+3.5% (for life). But you can't buy those anymore. I-bonds you buy today are CPI+1% (for life). -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us |
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| anoop wrote: - quote - > > I-Bonds are OK. I personally don't like TIPS. While interest
A bond fund's price will initially drop when interest rates rise> > rates have been going up, the return on FINPX has been falling. > > What kind of inflation protection is that? :-) (that's how bonds work). But later (probably within a few months), the return will be greater because the yield is higher. If you look at the chart in the link below, FINPX has grown over the past 2 years despite continually rising interest rates. Remember to look at total return, not just the NAV price. http://content.members.fidelity.com/...146604,00.html zxcvbob wrote: - quote - > I thought
I-Bonds are currently at 6.73%. But that's pretty misleading, because> with I-bonds currently yielding over 9%, the inflation protected bonds > fund might do better than the stable value fund or the "total bond > market" fund. I-Bonds uses inflation numbers for the past 6 months, and inflation temporarily spiked from the gas prices over the past 6 months. The I-Bonds rate will probably be very low in April as numbers average out over time. The real number to look at is the yield for a TIPS funds. Currently it is about 1.9% (before adjusting for inflation). Add on 3% for inflation, and you get about 5% total yield. Seems good to me. |
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| anoop wrote: - quote - > zxcvbob wrote: > > I have way too high percentage in large cap USA stocks. What do y'all > > think about inflation protected bonds? > I-Bonds are OK. I personally don't like TIPS. While interest > rates have been going up, the return on FINPX has been falling. > What kind of inflation protection is that? :-) > I probably don't understand how funds that invest in TIPS work > so I'll stay away from them until I do. At this point, I'd rather > have the money in cash than any kind of bond fund. > Do you have a "stable value fund" as an option? > Anoop Yes, I'm currently putting about 20% in a stable value fund. I thought with I-bonds currently yielding over 9%, the inflation protected bonds fund might do better than the stable value fund or the "total bond market" fund. (I just discovered that my plan offers an IP bond fund, and I haven't gotten a prospectus yet) Bob |
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| zxcvbob wrote: - quote - > I have way too high percentage in large cap USA stocks. What do y'all
I-Bonds are OK. I personally don't like TIPS. While interest> think about inflation protected bonds? rates have been going up, the return on FINPX has been falling. What kind of inflation protection is that? :-) I probably don't understand how funds that invest in TIPS work so I'll stay away from them until I do. At this point, I'd rather have the money in cash than any kind of bond fund. Do you have a "stable value fund" as an option? Anoop |
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| I have way too high percentage in large cap USA stocks. What do y'all think about inflation protected bonds? Thanks, Bob |
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