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Old 12-13-2005, 08:04 PM
Ron Peterson
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HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:

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> What I am working towards is not a recommendation for anyone else. My
> plan (already started) is to gradually phase out of growth and value
> blend funds towards 100% dividend paying stocks (funds and
> ETF/Vipers). By my retirement age the move would be complete, and
> then I would draw the dividends as a direct deposit to my checking
> account. ...


That's a good idea, but you don't need dividend paying stocks because
you can write calls to gain additional income.

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> Again, this is not a suggestion for others. In my case I have always
> been 100% in stock and volatility doesn't bother me. ...


I also am 100% in stock, but volatility does annoy me, however, I
believe the odds are in my favor.

--
Ron

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Old 12-13-2005, 05:04 PM
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Elizabeth,

Typically, during working years, people get a certain amount of money
a month and they figure out how to live on it.
The same thing applies in retirement. There is a rule of thumb that
you can take out about 5% of your portfolio every year and keep up with
inflation as well as not run out. You may want to do some research on
the withdrawal rates.
Then you need a budget that lets you live as well as possible from your
IRAs&401ks as well as any pension and social security.
Thats what I suggest.

Frank

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Old 12-13-2005, 05:04 PM
FranksPlace2
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Elizabeth,

Typically, during working years, people get a certain amount of money
a month and they figure out how to live on it.
The same thing applies in retirement. There is a rule of thumb that
you can take out about 5% of your portfolio every year and keep up with
inflation as well as not run out. You may want to do some research on
the withdrawal rates.
Then you need a budget that lets you live as well as possible from your
IRAs&401ks as well as any pension and social security.
Thats what I suggest.

Frank

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Old 12-13-2005, 02:24 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:11:22 -0600, "Elizabeth Richardson"
<erichktn[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote:


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> No, I am not referring to an MRD. Nor, from a previous responder is delaying
> distributions a reality. I'm not asking you to make a recommendation for my
> personal circumstances. I realize most of us are in the accumulation phase,
> but the reason for the accumulation is the distribution. So, the question
> was straight-forward: If YOU (any/all list members) were ready to draw from
> your retirement plan, how would you do it?


What I am working towards is not a recommendation for anyone else. My
plan (already started) is to gradually phase out of growth and value
blend funds towards 100% dividend paying stocks (funds and
ETF/Vipers). By my retirement age the move would be complete, and
then I would draw the dividends as a direct deposit to my checking
account. Where possible I would have custodians withhold income tax
and supplement with higher-than-required taxes from Social Security or
other pensions.

Again, this is not a suggestion for others. In my case I have always
been 100% in stock and volatility doesn't bother me. Further, there
is other income and other savings accounts (car, vacation, house
upkeep, etc.) My calculations show that I would continue to regularly
save in those dedicated accounts and that, except for minimum
distributions later (which would be reinvested into non-retirement
accounts), I would plan to never touch principal. At least that's the
plan. <grin





-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

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Old 12-12-2005, 07:05 PM
jIM
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in my mid thirties, this is a SWAG. I have a 401k, roth IRA, rollover
IRA and taxable dividend paying stocks which all come into
consideration. There is also additional ife insurance which probably
doesn't apply to the question.

My concept I am trying to build to:

I would withdraw the first 5 years of retirement income when I started,
probably from 401k. Put in two years in CDs, laddered to mature each
month, 3 years in TIPS, laddered to mature each year.

Then once per year, I would remove enough from 401k to replace TIPS
which matured. TIPS replace CD which was spent.

The idea is 5 years cash available to me, with occasional withdraws
from 401k (once per year) to backfill the money spent.

If I am more conservative, I will have 7 years cash outside the
retirement accounts. If a bad year occurs (where 401k drops in value),
I can delay withdraw for another year.

I have not researched what withdraw rules will be to make this happen.
Meaning this isn't equal withdraws, and I will have MRDs. Not sure how
to handle any of this, yet, for certain.

If I could find a way to have 5 years of income in non retirement
accounts prior to retiring, I would do that. The 5 year lump some
withdraw would be a huge tax hit for that one year, anything to lower
this tax hit would be considered.

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Old 12-12-2005, 06:57 PM
BMS
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Two things decide my planning, taxes and investment performance.

If I have a fixed product yielding 3% and another yielding 7%, taxes being
even, the 3% goes first.

If taking a required minimum distribution would impact my tax bracket, that
would figure in the thinking.


"Elizabeth Richardson" <erichktn[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:J2jnf.271635$zb5.11844[at]bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
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> "cal lester" <cal-lester[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:dnk9lh$8pi$1[at]domitilla.aioe.org...
> > Elizabeth, IF you are referring to the MRD of an IRA, it would be

> difficult
> > to have an
> > automatic withdrawal, as the amount is DIFFERENT each year.
> > I simply use one of the many calculators that are available,

> No, I am not referring to an MRD. Nor, from a previous responder is
> delaying
> distributions a reality. I'm not asking you to make a recommendation for
> my
> personal circumstances. I realize most of us are in the accumulation
> phase,
> but the reason for the accumulation is the distribution. So, the question
> was straight-forward: If YOU (any/all list members) were ready to draw
> from
> your retirement plan, how would you do it?
> Elizabeth Richardson


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Old 12-12-2005, 05:11 PM
Elizabeth Richardson
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"cal lester" <cal-lester[at]comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Elizabeth, IF you are referring to the MRD of an IRA, it would be
difficult
> to have an
> automatic withdrawal, as the amount is DIFFERENT each year.
> I simply use one of the many calculators that are available,


No, I am not referring to an MRD. Nor, from a previous responder is delaying
distributions a reality. I'm not asking you to make a recommendation for my
personal circumstances. I realize most of us are in the accumulation phase,
but the reason for the accumulation is the distribution. So, the question
was straight-forward: If YOU (any/all list members) were ready to draw from
your retirement plan, how would you do it?

Elizabeth Richardson

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Old 12-12-2005, 04:00 PM
cal lester
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Elizabeth, IF you are referring to the MRD of an IRA, it would be difficult
to have an
automatic withdrawal, as the amount is DIFFERENT each year.
I simply use one of the many calculators that are available, insert my
last year balance, then take a single annual withdraw late in the year.
(just sent in for it).
Cal


"Elizabeth Richardson" <erichktn[at]worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> If you were ready to start taking distributions from your retirement
> plan(s), how would you set them up? Would you set them up for a set amount
> to be automatically sent to you, or would you be more active about it,
> making a request for different amounts depending on current needs? What
> schedule? Monthly, quarterly, or even less often?
> Elizabeth Richardson


 
Old 12-12-2005, 04:35 AM
Ron Peterson
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Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
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> If you were ready to start taking distributions from your retirement
> plan(s), how would you set them up? Would you set them up for a set amount
> to be automatically sent to you, or would you be more active about it,
> making a request for different amounts depending on current needs? What
> schedule? Monthly, quarterly, or even less often?


I think that it might pay to delay any distributions that would be
taxable, but I would take disbursements from Roth IRAs last.

--
Ron

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Old 12-11-2005, 04:14 PM
Elizabeth Richardson
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Default Distributions

If you were ready to start taking distributions from your retirement
plan(s), how would you set them up? Would you set them up for a set amount
to be automatically sent to you, or would you be more active about it,
making a request for different amounts depending on current needs? What
schedule? Monthly, quarterly, or even less often?

Elizabeth Richardson

 

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