"BRH" <BRH[at]giganews.com> wrote
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http://clarkhoward.com/

Note the guzillion topics under "Clark Smarts."

I don't see anything being particularly hawked at the site. There is a lot
of free and detailed information about managing personal finances, from home
and car buying to optimal cable TV service to the new "Coke Zero" and "Pepsi
One."

Also, try the "Ask Clark" search engine. I just typed in "financing" and
selected the "cars" category, and a buncha hits predominantly or all from
his show's archives came up.

Coincidentally I watched part of Suze Orman's public television show again
last night. They air her show as part of a fund-raiser for the local station
where I live. During the show's breaks, she certainly is pushing her
products, but it's only as part of becoming a member of my station yada
yada. Not sure if she makes significant money off this or not. I personally
think public television gives a lot of bang for the buck, so I can't fault
her for this. In addition, what I saw at no charge on her show is very
valuable information, IMO.

But I don't write off Dave Ramsey. I would like to hear his show sometime.

In article <G3PQe.910$nB6.570[at]newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> ,
Matthew Johnson <matt[at]thosejohnsons.com> wrote:

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Apparently you haven't been listening very long. They run
pledge weeks nearly every quarter of the year asking you
to sign up and pay for the programming. You haven't experienced
pushy until you get one of their telemarketers calling you for
a pledge.

-john-

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Well, Marketplace Money (was sound money) on NPR isn't pushing their
product in the process.

http://marketplacemoney.publicradio.org/



-Matt


BMS wrote:
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In article <0P2dnZ2dnZ20oXynnZ2dnfTnjt6dnZ2dRVn-z52dnZ0[at]comcast.com> , "BMS" <mcfarland[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
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While Clark Howard does have books for sale, I think he is more into it to
help than make money. He got into the radio show, first as a guest, after
retiring early (by selling a travel business).

You can get plenty of advice for free from the folks on radio or TV. Most, if
not all, of their books are available at the library.

OTOH, advice via Usenet is worth every penny you pay for it. :-)

Elle wrote:
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Do you have a link to Clark Howard's site? Of course, I know about
Suzi, but I'm not familiar with Clark Howard....


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In article <7NOdnUb1N8sQ_I7eRVn-ow[at]comcast.com> , BRH <BRH[at]giganews.comwrote:

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Dave Ramsey has no control over most of the advertising on the
show. It is sold by the individual stations or the network
that carries him on some groups of stations. Dave does hold
back a few commercials for his own company. When he sells his
own products and tickets to events, he does it according to
his own rules and does not take credit cards.

People do call the show and ask about the commercials from
time to time. Dave simply asks how silly a company would
have to be to advertise a product during his show that he
rails against on his show. The only way to explain it is
that these scammers are buying time on Ramsey's show simply
due to the high ratings, and they apparently have never heard
the show. Dave says that he trusts his listeners to do the
right thing--if they listen to the show, they will learn to
know better than to fall for the credit repair and credit
scams that are being advertised.

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60 minutes spent a lot of time with Dave Ramsey. In fact,
they came back a second time to review much of the material
because they were looking for the other side of the story.
As it turns out, it is the great American success story,
and Dave is helping people. What more could you ask for?

-john-

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Understand that anybody that does talk radio shows on financial planning are
pushing another product in the process. Their book, newsletter, their
services, whatever this doesn't make them evil, bad or crooked. Though some
are.

You just need to understand there is an agenda at work. In the process, a
key piece of information maybe held back to encourage you inquire further.

Realize that getting information about financial planning doesn't come
without a price.

"BRH" <BRH[at]giganews.com> wrote in message
news:7NOdnUb1N8sQ_I7eRVn-ow[at]comcast.com...
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Last night, 60 Minutes did a piece on Dave Ramsey. Although I had heard
of him previously, I didn't really "get to know" him until I watched the
60 Minutes piece. Unlike many 60 Minutes stories, there was no
controversy in this story -- no tough questions -- no probing questions,
etc. Basically, it was all very positive.

So, today, I decided to listen in on his radio show for the first time
and check out his website. I like what he says about reducing debt,
etc. However -- is it just me, or is he pushing a lot of "products" and
"advertisers" that are questionable at best?

It seems hypocritical to me for someone who purports to be helping those
in financial trouble to push so many questionable products of his own
and accept advertising from sponsors that require heavy disclaimers at
the end beacuse they're mostly BS. These products are being aimed at
people who can least afford them.

After listening/reading about his products, I'm more than a little
disappointed that 60 Minutes didn't ask at least a few hard-hitting
questions about this. I know that he has to make a buck too, but he
seems to me more self-promoter than advisor to me.

Maybe I'm being too harsh, I don't know.... I'm curious to hear what
others on this newgroup think of Mr. Ramsey.

"BRH" <BRH[at]giganews.com> wrote
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Funny, but when I came to the "However" part of your post, I thought you
would question whether the guy was trying to sell products.

Someone here recommended him for advice recently, and I went to his web site
for the first time then. What you wrote was also one of my takes.

I suspect his radio show is helpful, though, if it's anything like Clark
Howard's or Suze Orman's. IIRC, Clark Howard's site gives a heckuva lot of
tips for free.

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Good point. I'm sorry I missed "60 Minutes" last night. That "60 Minutes"
thought it should do a piece on one of these popular plain talking financial
gurus (here in these days of record personal bankruptcies) is great, though.