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Old 08-20-2005, 09:22 PM
mydevnull@fastmail.fm
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Default Re: 401K withdrawal from outside US.

Sorry, I guess I missed a key info - I am not a US citizen. So, for
income earned outside US, I do not owe US any tax. Could you confirm my
observation from the original post given this?

Thanks,
Vinay.

HW "Skip" Weldon wrote:
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> On 20 Aug 2005 00:30:05 GMT, Rich Carreiro
> <rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:
> > Right -- since they live outside of the county, they can exclude up to
> > $80,000 of wages, or other earned income from tax. But if they have
> > any Chilean bank interest, etc., that *is* subject to US tax and they
> > should be reporting it. Of course, with all or most of their wages
> > excluded from tax, theirs standard/itemized deductions and personal
> > exemptions would offset several thousand dollars of unearned income.

> My understanding is that unlike IRA distributions, a 401k custodian
> must withhold taxes from a 401k distribution. To get that withholding
> refunded, the taxpayer would have to file a US return for that year
> and at that point he/she would go through the mechanical process
> described above.
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC


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Old 08-20-2005, 10:31 AM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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Default Re: 401K withdrawal from outside US.

On 20 Aug 2005 00:30:05 GMT, Rich Carreiro
<rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us> wrote:

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> Right -- since they live outside of the county, they can exclude up to
> $80,000 of wages, or other earned income from tax. But if they have
> any Chilean bank interest, etc., that *is* subject to US tax and they
> should be reporting it. Of course, with all or most of their wages
> excluded from tax, theirs standard/itemized deductions and personal
> exemptions would offset several thousand dollars of unearned income.


My understanding is that unlike IRA distributions, a 401k custodian
must withhold taxes from a 401k distribution. To get that withholding
refunded, the taxpayer would have to file a US return for that year
and at that point he/she would go through the mechanical process
described above.



-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

 
Old 08-19-2005, 09:59 PM
Rich Carreiro
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Default Re: 401K withdrawal from outside US.

mydevnull[at]fastmail.fm writes:

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> Is my following understanding correct? Lets say a person leaves US, and
> gets no income from any US source. This means that if she takes out
> $15K or less a year from the 401K while outside US, the only US "tax"
> is the 401K 10% penalty.


The US taxes its citizens on *worldwide income*, no matter where the
citizen lives. So it doesn't matter that the income isn't from a US
source. The US still taxes it as long as you are a citizen and
regardless of where you reside. The only way to get the US to stop
taxing your non-US income is to renounce your citizenship (though
ex-pats do get the special break of the foreign earned income tax
exclusion, whereby they can exclude from tax up to $80,000 of *earned
income*).

--
Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us

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Old 08-19-2005, 09:31 PM
mydevnull@fastmail.fm
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Default 401K withdrawal from outside US.

Hello,

I am trying to leverage 401K and IRAs towards maximal tax advantages.

Is my following understanding correct? Lets say a person leaves US, and
gets no income from any US source. This means that if she takes out
$15K or less a year from the 401K while outside US, the only US "tax"
is the 401K 10% penalty.

Further, can the 10% penalty be avoided by proving that a 401K loan is
being used for buying a house outside US or for higher education
outside US etc?

Any tips on this would be great!

Vinay.

 

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