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| xyzer[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > > accounting degree, general knowledge of taxation of > > individuals, including partners/S-Corp shareholders, and also of > > taxation of C-Corporations. > > received an e-mail from a financial services firm ... > what's it like for the entry-level > > scrub? Is it like other industries where they start you off with about > > 10 leads or so and you're on your own trying desperately to make > > contacts through cold-calls? Am I guessing correctly when I assume > > that I really wouldn't be doing much "planning" at all in the beginning? You don't mention the firm but if they emailed you, it's likely to be a sales-focused position rather than something where you spend a lot of time on planning. You'd be expected to start with your natural market and build out from there. The training is probably focused on sales of insurance or investment products (or both). You should call and ask about the position to find out for sure. - quote - > How common is it for people who run, say, their own tax practice also
Assuming you were properly licensed as a registered representative (aka> to work as a broker for a financial services firm and when new clients > come to their own tax practice on their own property they, along with > giving good tax advice, attempt to sell (on commission) products from > mutual fund X or whatever? > I can see myself trying to attract clients this way perhaps through > advertising myself as a tax person, which I would be, and then being > able to introduce clients directly to a way to invest in a traditional > IRA or whatever type of IRA would suit him/her best... broker - selling commissioned products) or as a registered investment advisor or advisor rep (charging fees) it's a perfectly legal combination, and is an add-on business for a subset of CPAs. I think it makes sense because in preparing taxes you by necessity gain full view of a client's investments and their use (or misuse) of the various tax-advantaged alternatives. A great deal of financial planning is really tax planning so it dovetails well with a tax practice. If you work on a fee basis now, it seems a better professional fit to continue on a fee basis to the extent you advise on these other topics (meaning go the registered investment advisor route rather than the commissioned sales rep route). If you work with commissioned products it changes the nature of the relationship a bit and as you suggest, could raise more conflicts of interest. -Tad |
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| xyzer[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > xyzer[at]hotmail.com wrote:
I'm not a professional in your trade, xyzer. But as a consumer of> > I have an accounting degree and have a general knowledge of taxation of > > individuals, including partners/S-Corp shareholders, and also of > > taxation of C-Corporations. Even though I've passed the regulation > > (tax/business law) section of the CPA exam, I'm having some trouble > > finding accounting work. I've gotten some leads, but I don't have any > > real-world accounting experience, so that is holding me back slightly I > > believe. Anyway, recently (and another time before not so recently) I > > received an e-mail (which I'm sure every other local person who has an > > accounting or finance/business degree received as well) through > > monster.com from a financial services firm that's expanding into my > > area. It's a national firm, though the name isn't nationally known by > > everyday people. > > > So, if this firm is like most firms who interview just about anybody to > > see if they could be a good fit, what's it like for the entry-level > > scrub? Is it like other industries where they start you off with about > > 10 leads or so and you're on your own trying desperately to make > > contacts through cold-calls? Am I guessing correctly when I assume > > that I really wouldn't be doing much > > "planning" at all in the beginning? > On another note... > How common is it for people who run, say, their own tax practice also > to work as a broker for a financial services firm and when new clients > come to their own tax practice on their own property they, along with > giving good tax advice, attempt to sell (on commission) products from > mutual fund X or whatever? > I can see myself trying to attract clients this way perhaps through > advertising myself as a tax person, which I would be, and then being > able to introduce clients directly to a way to invest in a traditional > IRA or whatever type of IRA would suit him/her best... Of course, I > obviously would need to research the legal aspects of such behavior > before doing such activity...I have a feeling there are plenty of legal > pitfalls when doing something like this, if it's even legal... So what > should one be careful of in this sort of situation? > I guess for someone like me whose network is not yet large or all that > well-to-do, my whole idea here is that it would be much easier to > attract clients by advertising something they pretty much have to do > (pay taxes) and introducing them to the mutual fund/insurance product > that way rather than the otherwise inevitable massive amount of > cold-calling I would have to do. > Of course, one problem is that during the tax off-season, using this > method might not work all that well to find clients, at least > initially. financial advisor services, I would suggest that there is a profound conflict of interest for any financial advisor who also derives a commission from investments that he or she recommends. If you are at all interested in thinking about alternatives to placing yourself in such a position, then you might want to read the code of professional practice of the National Association of Personal Financial Advisors (http://www.napfa.org). Of course, if you intend to pursue this type of business in the manner you've outlined, you will need to register as an investment adviser with SEC. For anybody who bothers to read your form ADV, you're not going to show up well without a considerable amount of additional training as a CFP. I don't know your personal history, of course. But I'd have to wonder if there is some specific reason you feel constrained or disinterested with respect to taking employment in a larger CPA firm? Apart from difficulty in finding a position, that is? Everybody fresh out of school runs into a certain amount of that. Your resume could easily be shooting you in the foot, for that matter. If you care to have a senior professional in a different field (engineering) look at your res, then feel free to sent it along to lawhern[at]verizon.net. There is also a large archive of job-search related resources on my personal website, at http://www.lawhern.org. Feel free to visit and use what's there. Regards and Best. R.A. "Red' Lawhern, Ph.D ======================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: Please trim the post to which you are responding. "Trim" means that except for a few lines to add context, the previous post is deleted. |
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| xyzer[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > I have an accounting degree and have a general knowledge of taxation of > individuals, including partners/S-Corp shareholders, and also of > taxation of C-Corporations. Even though I've passed the regulation > (tax/business law) section of the CPA exam, I'm having some trouble > finding accounting work. I've gotten some leads, but I don't have any > real-world accounting experience, so that is holding me back slightly I > believe. Anyway, recently (and another time before not so recently) I > received an e-mail (which I'm sure every other local person who has an > accounting or finance/business degree received as well) through > monster.com from a financial services firm that's expanding into my > area. It's a national firm, though the name isn't nationally known by > everyday people. > So, if this firm is like most firms who interview just about anybody to > see if they could be a good fit, what's it like for the entry-level > scrub? Is it like other industries where they start you off with about > 10 leads or so and you're on your own trying desperately to make > contacts through cold-calls? Am I guessing correctly when I assume > that I really wouldn't be doing much > "planning" at all in the beginning? On another note... How common is it for people who run, say, their own tax practice also to work as a broker for a financial services firm and when new clients come to their own tax practice on their own property they, along with giving good tax advice, attempt to sell (on commission) products from mutual fund X or whatever? I can see myself trying to attract clients this way perhaps through advertising myself as a tax person, which I would be, and then being able to introduce clients directly to a way to invest in a traditional IRA or whatever type of IRA would suit him/her best... Of course, I obviously would need to research the legal aspects of such behavior before doing such activity...I have a feeling there are plenty of legal pitfalls when doing something like this, if it's even legal... So what should one be careful of in this sort of situation? I guess for someone like me whose network is not yet large or all that well-to-do, my whole idea here is that it would be much easier to attract clients by advertising something they pretty much have to do (pay taxes) and introducing them to the mutual fund/insurance product that way rather than the otherwise inevitable massive amount of cold-calling I would have to do. Of course, one problem is that during the tax off-season, using this method might not work all that well to find clients, at least initially. |
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| I have an accounting degree and have a general knowledge of taxation of individuals, including partners/S-Corp shareholders, and also of taxation of C-Corporations. Even though I've passed the regulation (tax/business law) section of the CPA exam, I'm having some trouble finding accounting work. I've gotten some leads, but I don't have any real-world accounting experience, so that is holding me back slightly I believe. Anyway, recently (and another time before not so recently) I received an e-mail (which I'm sure every other local person who has an accounting or finance/business degree received as well) through monster.com from a financial services firm that's expanding into my area. It's a national firm, though the name isn't nationally known by everyday people. So, if this firm is like most firms who interview just about anybody to see if they could be a good fit, what's it like for the entry-level scrub? Is it like other industries where they start you off with about 10 leads or so and you're on your own trying desperately to make contacts through cold-calls? Am I guessing correctly when I assume that I really wouldn't be doing much "planning" at all in the beginning? |
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