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| I work in Vanguard (disclosure-this is a non work related advice) and am very familiar with our funds. You may take a look at actively managed balanced funds that usually have a better track record than index-based, life style funds with a much lower expense ratio that that of an industry average. The fact is that Vanguard employes outside investment managers to manage its actively managed funds and you are getting service from the best investment minds out there without paying any loads or unreasonable fees. |
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| Hi. No, most 401k funds *aren't* loaded at all. Or rather, there is no requirement that they have a load. My 401k offers many choices, and none have loads. I checked one of your funds, AEPGX, and it does have a huge (> 5%) front-end load, so you've already lost that money... It is up to the 401k administrator as to what funds are available. If Vanguard administered your 401k, you would have many no-load funds to choose from. There is zero correlation between loads and fund quality. Your load does nothing to incent or alter the fund function. The load is paid out by the fund to whoever persuaded you to buy the fund (ie: in this case the 401k administrator). Lots of companies know less than they should about the choices they have in 401k administrators. Their choices can have a siginficant effect on how well their employees do. I have also heard of venal unscrupulous companies that actually get some kickback of fees, treating their 401k plan as a profit generator. Unless you have a very helpful money manager who is hand-holding you personally through some complicated financial decisions (he pockets the loads as payment for his advise), there is no reason to throw away money buying loaded funds. Joe |
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| I thought most 401k funds were front-end loaded? Or is management fees different from front-end loads? In my 401k I put my $$ into AEPGX, FRBSX, AGTHX, SSSPL, AWSHX, and PTRAX. Aren't most of those front-end loaded? Are they good funds btw? |
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| I haven't looked up any of the funds you've listed. I used to own T Rowe Balanced and currently own Van Guard's index 500 in my 401k. All others I will assume others will comment on or you will research on your own. My initial comments (worth what you paid for them)- make sure your wife's Roth is maxed out. If her company puts in 7% no matter what, she should max out Roth before contributing another dollar to 401k. B shares mean you pay a load on withdraw? I haven't used loaded funds before, but if this is true, you will be paying both Oppenheimer and unlce Sam before you see a dime. Consider putting the $100 your wife puts into 401k into Roth IRA or a taxable fund instead. Capital gains taxes on taxable account could be less than fees for load+tax paid on 401k when withdrawing. I avoid lifestyle funds. I will take the time to research my 401k and Roth IRA options and review them each year. If you want less maintainance each year, the lifestyle funds could be considered. I would figure out how much you want invested in stocks and bonds, then buy the individual stock funds and individual bond funds needed. |
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| My wife and I are trying to get a better hold on our retirement plan. We're both in our early 30's, no children (and no plans to have them), no debt aside from our home, total annual income about 90K. I put 12% of my pre-tax salary into the company 401K (company matches 20% of every dollar up to 5%), which has a wide choice of funds. My wife's company automatically puts 7% of her salary into the company's 401K, which is in Oppenheimer Funds (future contributions can only be made to B shares) and she can add whatever she wants on top of the 7% (she currently adds $100 per month) but the additional contributions are not matched. We also try to fund our Roth IRA's as best we can. I think we do a good job of saving, but we've got a major hodge-podge of holdings going right now...... Her Oppenheimer holdings, totaling about $30K, consist of: Cash Reserve B, Cash Reserve B, Strategic Income A, Main Street Small Cap B, Main Street Small Cap A, Global Opportunities B, Global Opportunities A. My 401K, totaling about $25K, consists of: T Rowe Price Balanced, Royce Total Return, American Century Income and Growth We also each have a Roth with Vanguard worth about $6K each, both in the 500 Idx/Inv. And I have a rollover Roth with Vanguard as well, about $6K in the 500 Idx/Inv. There are two big things on my mind now. One is that both of our company's 401K plans now offer the "lifestyle" funds. I can choose between three American Century funds....AAAIX, ASAMX and ACCIX. Her option is Oppenheimer's Quest Balanced Fund B. I'm wondering if I should consolidate my 401K holdings into the AAAIX fund (American Century's Aggressive lifestyle fund) and have her consolidate hers into the Quest Balanced Fund. Then we have the question of what to do with our Roth's. It looks like we'll be able to fund them fully this year and I'm not sure it's a good idea to just keep piling it all into Vanguard's 500 Index or if we should spread it around to other Vanguard index funds. Should I be putting 12% in my 401K or put less into that and more post-tax money into the Roth? Should she keep adding $100 per month to her Oppenheimer funds or put more post-tax money into her Roth? So many questions. I'd really appreciate any suggestions or thoughts about our situation. Thanks! |
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