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Aside from all the other relevant objections that have already been> From: 1000blessings <noreply[at]error.net> Newsgroups: misc.invest.financial-plan > My financial plan is as frugal as they come. I've been living at my > moms house my whole life. Since I started working when I was a > teenager I've been able to save all of my income, because my mom feeds > me and pays the rent. (snip) > If you see any problems with my plan let me know, but I don't think > you can find a problem with a financial plan as simple as living at > your moms house. > End copy............................... pointed out, is the fact that (I venture to guess) most parents do not offer free room & board to their adult children. I livedwith my parents for some time after I graduated from college, but I paid for room and board. Karen |
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| - quote - > If you see any problems with my plan let me know, but I don't think
I'm sorry for you that your mom wasn't interested in helping you become more> you can find a problem with a financial plan as simple as living at > your moms house. independent so that you became more self-reliant. Apparently her mom taught her to live on her own, else you would be living at your grandma's. What would you do if something happened to your mom? Would you be able to make it on your own? Elizabeth Richardson |
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| - quote - > My question is why doesn't everyone just save all of their money while
Personal freedom. A house or apartment (even if renting) means you set> they live at their moms house? Most kids these days can't even hold a > job let alone save any of their money. your own rules. Living with your parents requires you to live within their rules. - quote - > I've also inherited money, and with my savings have enough to buy a
Houses do not always appreciate in value. Consider the following> house now without taking out a mortgage or a loan. It may not be the > best idea to keep all of my money in a home, if I don't have enough > liquid to get me through a year or two of hard times.. but I don't > want to play with stocks. > The ups side is I don't have to pay a mortgage so I have that much > extra money to spend every month, and the money is still in the house > so I can get it back. Plus a house is a 0% risk investment, that > gains a bit in value. hypothetical case: Paying too much for a house and later finding severe structural damage. - quote - > The great thing about it though, is now I am in the position where I
In the end, money is not a goal, but a means to an end. Many people> can let people live in my home rent free.. and then they can start > saving up their money too. Think about how much money we could have > as a collective if we all just ate rice and noodles, and split the > cost of the heat bill? wouldn't find life enjoyable in their circumstances. -- With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead. -- RFC 1925 |
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| In article <hchsv0pjrhqgfeq3lt2oe5c6c2l2h5oovi[at]4ax.com> , "HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My question is why doesn't everyone just save all of their money while
That is the way it was done for centuries. It just isn't cool> they live at their moms house? Most kids these days can't even hold a > job let alone save any of their money. anymore in the modern world. Neither is leisure time...all the TV ads con families into having both adults work 40 to 60 hours a week so they can afford massive car payments and a boat that they never have time to use. It is sick, sick, sick. But if you try to row your own boat, everyone else will think that you are a nut-case. Sometimes it is easier and more enjoyable to fit in rather than being the one that everyone points their finger at. - quote - > The great thing about it though, is now I am in the position where I
While I am sure that there are people out there who would use> can let people live in my home rent free.. and then they can start > saving up their money too. Think about how much money we could have > as a collective if we all just ate rice and noodles, and split the > cost of the heat bill? such an arrangement to better themselves, I am afraid that there are far more con artists who would be more interested in taking advantage of you. And human nature is a big factor. When someone does not have "skin in the game", they tend to not take care of the facility. Just look at all the low income housing. Despite us tax payers breaking our backs to provide decent housing for the low end of society, those folks ripped up and trashed the places. Some low income housing that is only 20 years old has needed to be torn down because the ingrates trashed them so badly. - quote - > Eventually we would have enough money that someone could buy another
That sure is a nice thought. The problem is that it doesn't> house, and even more people could get in on this idea of living free. > Or we could open up a business.. or just buy a chunk of the rain > forest with all the money we saved! match with human nature. The kind of people that you will attract will most likely be more interested in taking advantage of you. -john- -- ================================================== ==================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john[at]johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ==================== |
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| In article <hchsv0pjrhqgfeq3lt2oe5c6c2l2h5oovi[at]4ax.com> , HW \"Skip\" Weldon <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Just think about that idea, investors expect a 7% return a year on
I make it about $286,000, not $20,000,000.> their investments. If I make 20K a year you would have to have 14 > million dollars invested to make that kind of return. - quote - > My question is why doesn't everyone just save all of their money while
I can't speak about you, but I don't want to live at my mom's house,> they live at their moms house? and my mom doesn't want me living there. |
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| - quote - > Subject: Live Free
Unfortunately, you're missing a huge part of the picture> From: 1000blessings <noreply[at]error.net> My financial plan is as frugal as they come. I've been living at my > moms house my whole life. Since I started working when I was a > teenager I've been able to save all of my income, because my mom feeds > me and pays the rent. of what financial planning is about. Sure, you're saving lots of money. But you've not yet learned how to live within your means. Success in finance begins with that lesson first. - quote - > The ups side is I don't have to pay a mortgage so I have that much
A house is NOT a "zero risk" investment. Houses go down in> extra money to spend every month, and the money is still in the house > so I can get it back. Plus a house is a 0% risk investment, that > gains a bit in value. value sometimes. Houses have huge ongoing costs. Houses are very illiquid. And, historically, on a broad basis, they go up in value over the long term at only a couple of percent ahead of inflation. A balanced and diversified portfolio of equities, over the long term, has done better historically. Houses are primarily places to live. They are only secondarily investments. -- Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting |
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| A couple of things to consider: 1) 7% of $14 million is $980,000. You'd need just over $285,000 invested at 7% per annum to replace your $20,000 income. 2) You are probably the exception in that you saved the money effectively given to you by your mother each month in the form of free food and rent - I suspect that many would spend it. |
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| The following post was returned to the poster for cross-posting. Unfortunately, because he/she posted using a NON-WORKING EMAIL ADDRESS, he/she is probably wondering what happened to their post. Since the Moderators had the time and the post is on-topic for MIFP, we have copied the post below with corrected headers. Begin copy.............................................. Subject: Live Free From: 1000blessings <noreply[at]error.netNewsgroups: misc.invest.financial-plan My financial plan is as frugal as they come. I've been living at my moms house my whole life. Since I started working when I was a teenager I've been able to save all of my income, because my mom feeds me and pays the rent. Just think about that idea, investors expect a 7% return a year on their investments. If I make 20K a year you would have to have 14 million dollars invested to make that kind of return. My question is why doesn't everyone just save all of their money while they live at their moms house? Most kids these days can't even hold a job let alone save any of their money. I've also inherited money, and with my savings have enough to buy a house now without taking out a mortgage or a loan. It may not be the best idea to keep all of my money in a home, if I don't have enough liquid to get me through a year or two of hard times.. but I don't want to play with stocks. The ups side is I don't have to pay a mortgage so I have that much extra money to spend every month, and the money is still in the house so I can get it back. Plus a house is a 0% risk investment, that gains a bit in value. The great thing about it though, is now I am in the position where I can let people live in my home rent free.. and then they can start saving up their money too. Think about how much money we could have as a collective if we all just ate rice and noodles, and split the cost of the heat bill? Eventually we would have enough money that someone could buy another house, and even more people could get in on this idea of living free. Or we could open up a business.. or just buy a chunk of the rain forest with all the money we saved! If you see any problems with my plan let me know, but I don't think you can find a problem with a financial plan as simple as living at your moms house. End copy............................... -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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