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| S. S. wrote: - quote - > I am making the decision for my retirement investment fund selection.
SS-> My company has Putnam as the investment carrier. Vanguard 500 Index is > one option in Putnam's offering, among a bunch of other funds, some > coming from Putnam itself. I think what confuses me is why Putnam > offers a Vanguard fund. My understanding is that Vanguard 500 Index is > managed by Vanguard, but not Putnam, right? So why does Putnam offer > its competitor's product? Well, actually that is not exactly what > concerns me. What I am really concerned is whether this kind of > arrangement will add another layer of cost to me. By that I mean if I > invest on Vanguard 500 Index through Vanguard directly (of course if > Vanguard is my company's investment carrier), won't that cost me less > than if I invest on Vanguard 500 Index through Putnam? Sounds like Putnam is your plan custodian and while you might expect all Putnam funds, it's not at all uncommon to have a mix from a bunch of different fund companies. There's a law called "ERISA" that could make a few people in the chain of decision-making liable if they went with Putnam as custodian, and all Putnam funds - unless they had some good reasons for doing so. To find out the expenses for any of the funds offered in your 401k plan, don't bother with Morningstar for the first cut - call your HR department and ask for it. They are required to provide it to you and most do so in a summary sheet listing out all the funds w/their basic data, accompanied by the funds' prospectuses. Your company is also paying some expenses for maintaining the 401k plan (outside of the mutual fund expenses) so it's entirely possible that your Vanguard fund fees will be very low, while Putnam isn't going broke. -Tad |
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| In article <559ac2fa.0408120438.6523c33e[at]posting.google.com> , S. S. <sassysaser[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I am making the decision for my retirement investment fund selection.
Most companies that offer mutual funds have become "funds supermarkets"> My company has Putnam as the investment carrier. Vanguard 500 Index is > one option in Putnam's offering, among a bunch of other funds, some > coming from Putnam itself. I think what confuses me is why Putnam > offers a Vanguard fund. My understanding is that Vanguard 500 Index is > managed by Vanguard, but not Putnam, right? over the past decade. That is, they offer funds from all different companies. They realize that people want choice, and that they will pick someone else if they don't provide this choice. There is likely to be a little additional fees by getting the Vanguard funds this way, but since this is in your 401K, the benefits of the 401K far outwiegh the impact of the fees. In a perfect world, your employeer would have set up their 401K plan directly with Vanguard, allowing you to get some of the best funds at the best prices. The world isn't perfect, but it is tilted at least a little bit in your direction. In general, Putnam funds have been a disaster over the past 6 years, so having a choice outside of Putnam is fantastic. -john- -- ================================================== ================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john[at]johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ================== |
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| I am making the decision for my retirement investment fund selection. My company has Putnam as the investment carrier. Vanguard 500 Index is one option in Putnam's offering, among a bunch of other funds, some coming from Putnam itself. I think what confuses me is why Putnam offers a Vanguard fund. My understanding is that Vanguard 500 Index is managed by Vanguard, but not Putnam, right? So why does Putnam offer its competitor's product? Well, actually that is not exactly what concerns me. What I am really concerned is whether this kind of arrangement will add another layer of cost to me. By that I mean if I invest on Vanguard 500 Index through Vanguard directly (of course if Vanguard is my company's investment carrier), won't that cost me less than if I invest on Vanguard 500 Index through Putnam? I assume that there will be additional costs when Vanguard 500 Index is sold by a company other than Vanguard itself. I checked fees associated with Vanguard 500 Index from morningstar.com, but the fees listed there will not tell me how much the additional cost is for me to invest on the fund from Putnam, is that right? If it is right, then where can I find this information? What exact questions should I ask? Same story for another investment carrier of my company, Lincoln Financial Group. Its options are under something called "Multi-Fund Variable Annuity". Within it, I see funds managed by Scudder, Fidelity, Janus, and etc. Will it cost less if I invest on a Fidelity fund through Fidelity directly? Thank you in advance for help! S.S. |
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