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Old 04-05-2004, 09:58 AM
Doug
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Default Re: Should I lock in mortgage rate now?

The average time in a home is something like 7 years. If you are
young, single, and/or not secure in your marriage or job, then it is
less. If you are older, happily married and have a stable job, then it
is more.

One idea. Get the variable rate, like a 7 year ARM. Then pay it off at
the 30 year payment rate. Rates would have to go WAY up for you to
loose on this one.

When we buy a house we think it is forever, but most of us move every
few years, or refinance, or something. Very few 30 year mortgages go
the full term.

The last 10 years or so, rates have been declining, and we have all
been refinancing. I have refinanced my house 3 times in the last 8
years. I went with 7 year ARM and now I have a 4% second.

I agree rates are likely to go back up, but when and how much, no one
knows.

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Old 04-03-2004, 12:30 PM
SizzleMP
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Default Re: Should I lock in mortgage rate now?

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> Well, I've thought of one: if you expect to have enough money to pay off
> the mortgage entirely within the year. (For instance, if you are selling
> another house in which you have substantial equity, but need to get into
> your new house before the deal on the old one closes.)
> -Sandra


Actually, that was my original plan. Even though I had enough funds to do 2
seperate closings, I thought that if I wanted to buy my house outright, I would
get an adjustable 6 month ARM home equity loan in my present house, use that
equity to buy my new house and then when I sold my old house, just payoff the
equity loan.
After doing some careful researching though and with great advice from this
newsgroup, I thought at these low mortgage rates it did not make sense to buy
the house outright. Also you still have to pay seperate closing costs for the
home equity loan, which in my case was going to cost me between $2500 & $3000.

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Old 04-03-2004, 09:58 AM
Jack Rogers
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Default Re: Should I lock in mortgage rate now?

Hadn't thought of that one, Sandra. I agree that's an excellent reason for
a 1-year ARM.


"Sandra Loosemore" <sandra[at]frogsonice.com> wrote in message
news:m37jwyo2gi.fsf[at]dartfrog.localdomain...
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> "Jack Rogers" <JackRogers[at]NOSPAMCinci.rr.com> writes:
> > And I can't think of ANY justification to
> > go with a 1-year ARM unless you're paying an outrageous interest rate

AND
> > expect to move in 12-24 months.

> Well, I've thought of one: if you expect to have enough money to pay off
> the mortgage entirely within the year. (For instance, if you are selling
> another house in which you have substantial equity, but need to get into
> your new house before the deal on the old one closes.)
> -Sandra


 
Old 04-02-2004, 06:03 PM
Sandra Loosemore
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"Jack Rogers" <JackRogers[at]NOSPAMCinci.rr.com> writes:

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> And I can't think of ANY justification to
> go with a 1-year ARM unless you're paying an outrageous interest rate AND
> expect to move in 12-24 months.


Well, I've thought of one: if you expect to have enough money to pay off
the mortgage entirely within the year. (For instance, if you are selling
another house in which you have substantial equity, but need to get into
your new house before the deal on the old one closes.)

-Sandra

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Old 04-02-2004, 10:15 AM
Jack Rogers
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Default Re: Should I lock in mortgage rate now?

I agree if you KNOW that you will be moving in 3, 5, or 7 years, then an ARM
makes great sense. In fact, even if you are pretty sure you'll be moving,
then an ARM is the intelligent way to go. However, for people who don't
expect to move (stable job, stable family situation, stable income), then I
would go with the 30-year fixed. And I can't think of ANY justification to
go with a 1-year ARM unless you're paying an outrageous interest rate AND
expect to move in 12-24 months.

Using prime rate over the last 10 years, a 1.5% move isn't that uncommon.
In 1994, for example, prime went from 6.0% to 8.5% in that year alone. An
ARM, without proper caps that most people don't seem to be concerned with,
would be awfully painful that year. Also, in the 124 months since January,
1994, prime was at least 1.5% higher than today for 95 of those months. It
was at least 2.5% higher than today for 92 of those months. It just doesn't
seem likely that an ARM will make much financial sense if you are in the
house a couple years after the term of the ARM ends.

All that being said, I have a 7-year ARM because I expect to move in about
five years. I was going to go with the 5-year ARM but thought the slightly
higher interest rate offered enough insurance in case I am here 6 or 7
years.



"TTRoberts" <ttroberts[at]aol.com> wrote in message
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> Why does it seem people are so obsessed with a 30 yr. fixed rate?
> What's so wrong with a variable rate . . . just the fact that it can or

will go
> up at some point?
> People who use variable rate mortgages will tend to pay around 150 basis

points
> less with variable loans than with a 30 yr. fixed rates. Yes, variable

rates
> go up. But they also go down . . . and there are a greater variety of

them
> today than in the 70's and 80's that are not tied to the Prime Rate as so

many
> once were. So, the high end does not have to be as high as it used to be.
> I use a variable rate mortgage and am thoroughly enjoying the record lows
> (currently paying less than 3.75%) and am putting the savings to good use.

I
> expect it will go higher any time. But I don't expect the variable rate

to go
> higher than 6% any time soon (maybe a couple of years) since my rate is

tied to
> CODI. And when those rates do move up, I expect my cash resources

(including
> any increase in income) will handle the difference. In the end, that 150

basis
> points or so will save me quite a lot.
> Of course this is all predicated on the fact that I'm a typical home owner

and
> this loan is not my last one. If it were really to be my "last" mortgage

loan,
> then that's a different story.
> Comments and thoughts are welcome. :-)


 

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