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Old 02-23-2004, 02:37 PM
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Before Google bought DejaNews (the original web archiver of usenet
feeds), there was a great deal of controversy over who owned the
"content" of a usenet post. After all, the archiving sites sell
advertising around that content, without paying the author any sort of
licensing fee.

Archivers agreed to let authors opt-out of the archive. Usenet postings
that contain a particular header (I think it's X-No-Archive, or
something like that) are not kept in web-based archives. I would
imagine that Google still does it that way. It's possible that your
newsreader is set to include this header -- that would cause your posts
to go out on Usenet via NNTP, but not be captured in web archives like
Google.

It would be interesting, by the way, to know whether the "solution" is
really legal after all. That is, I could say that the content of this
post is copyrighted and that I only authorize distribution through NNTP
on Usenet. If Google archives it despite that notice, am I entitled to
sue for copyright infringement? Food for thought.....

In article <50bde0e6.0402221741.4941cfea[at]posting.google.com> ,
anoop[at]alumni.duke.edu (Anoop Ghanwani) wrote:

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> I have had similar problems. My posts to this group never show
> up in google groups, although any responses to them do. Those
> very same posts do show up when I use my newsreader at work for
> reading this newsgroup, so I think at least my problem is google/mifp
> specific. I don't have this problem with other newgroups. Not sure
> what may be causing it, though.


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Old 02-23-2004, 09:03 AM
Anoop Ghanwani
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I have had similar problems. My posts to this group never show
up in google groups, although any responses to them do. Those
very same posts do show up when I use my newsreader at work for
reading this newsgroup, so I think at least my problem is google/mifp
specific. I don't have this problem with other newgroups. Not sure
what may be causing it, though.

Anoop

"HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9h3h30t8dgt13ghh4rd63n3qs9gdgf13tu[at]4ax.com> ...
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> Would appreciate comments on the following email - on occasion I have
> experienced similar problems.
> -----------------------------------
> > From : Brent Gindelberger <gindie[at]hotmail.com> Sent : Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:53 AM

> Subject : Question about posting to misc.invest.financial-plan
> Strange thing seems to be happening when I (attempt to) post to the
> newsgroup?I never see my replies! I just assumed they were getting
> rejected for some reason. But, lo and behold, tonight I see in topic
> ?Financial planner vs. Do It Myself? someone quoting from my response,
> even though the response itself doesn?t seem to show up in the thread.
> I am using Google groups.
> Do you have any idea what may be going on? I don?t seem to have this
> problem on any other groups, moderated and unmoderated.
> Brent Gindelberger
> Kettering, OH
> gindie[at]hotmail.com
> end copy-------------------------------
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC


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Old 02-22-2004, 03:05 PM
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"HW \"Skip\" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<9h3h30t8dgt13ghh4rd63n3qs9gdgf13tu[at]4ax.com> ...
- quote -

> Would appreciate comments on the following email - on occasion I have
> experienced similar problems.
> -----------------------------------
> > From : Brent Gindelberger <gindie[at]hotmail.com> Sent : Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:53 AM

> Subject : Question about posting to misc.invest.financial-plan
> Strange thing seems to be happening when I (attempt to) post to the
> newsgroup?I never see my replies! I just assumed they were getting
> rejected for some reason. But, lo and behold, tonight I see in topic
> ?Financial planner vs. Do It Myself? someone quoting from my response,
> even though the response itself doesn?t seem to show up in the thread.
> I am using Google groups.
> Do you have any idea what may be going on? I don?t seem to have this
> problem on any other groups, moderated and unmoderated.
> Brent Gindelberger
> Kettering, OH
> gindie[at]hotmail.com
> end copy-------------------------------
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC



I see the same problem on this group and misc.invest.mutual funds and
I use google groups too.

Jim

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Old 02-22-2004, 12:11 PM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 06:52:31 CST, "TT" <tool[at]box.net> wrote:

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> Yes, that has happened to me on more than one occasion. I also, assumed my
> posts were not approved and did not appear.


It has happened to me also, so please don't assume that the post was
not accepted. Hopefully someone will jump in here and explain how
this occasionally happens.

For the record, the moderators rarely return a post. In those
instances where a post is returned, it is usually for reasons due to
cross posting, tone (offensive or contentious), off-topic to general
personal finance or lack of trimming the post to which you respond.
Returned posts are also shown for a few days at
http://www.algebra.com/~mifp/

Except for chronic violators, every such post will be returned to the
poster. *This assumes the poster is using a working email address.*

So if you see nothing and hear nothing for 24 hours, first check the
above website promptly (it gets cleaned out twice weekly), then
contact the moderators via email.


-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

 
Old 02-22-2004, 11:52 AM
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Yes, that has happened to me on more than one occasion. I also, assumed my
posts were not approved and did not appear.


"HW "Skip" Weldon" <skip5700removethis[at]hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9h3h30t8dgt13ghh4rd63n3qs9gdgf13tu[at]4ax.com...
- quote -

> Would appreciate comments on the following email - on occasion I have
> experienced similar problems.
> -----------------------------------
> > From : Brent Gindelberger <gindie[at]hotmail.com> Sent : Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:53 AM

> Subject : Question about posting to misc.invest.financial-plan
> Strange thing seems to be happening when I (attempt to) post to the
> newsgroup.I never see my replies! I just assumed they were getting
> rejected for some reason. But, lo and behold, tonight I see in topic
> "Financial planner vs. Do It Myself" someone quoting from my response,
> even though the response itself doesn't seem to show up in the thread.
> I am using Google groups.
> Do you have any idea what may be going on? I don't seem to have this
> problem on any other groups, moderated and unmoderated.
> Brent Gindelberger
> Kettering, OH
> gindie[at]hotmail.com
> end copy-------------------------------
> -HW "Skip" Weldon
> Columbia, SC



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Old 02-22-2004, 10:14 AM
HW \Skip\ Weldon
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Default Problems "seeing" posts on MIFP

Would appreciate comments on the following email - on occasion I have
experienced similar problems.

---
- quote -

> From : Brent Gindelberger <gindie[at]hotmail.comSent : Sunday, February 22, 2004 1:53 AM
Subject : Question about posting to misc.invest.financial-plan

Strange thing seems to be happening when I (attempt to) post to the
newsgroup…I never see my replies! I just assumed they were getting
rejected for some reason. But, lo and behold, tonight I see in topic
“Financial planner vs. Do It Myself” someone quoting from my response,
even though the response itself doesn’t seem to show up in the thread.
I am using Google groups.

Do you have any idea what may be going on? I don’t seem to have this
problem on any other groups, moderated and unmoderated.

Brent Gindelberger
Kettering, OH
gindie[at]hotmail.com


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-HW "Skip" Weldon
Columbia, SC

 

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