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Old 04-06-2004, 08:55 PM
tragicallyhip
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Default Re: 401k rollover to IRA while still at the job?

I'M SURE YOUR EMPLOYER HAS RULES AGAINST THAT. QUESTION: WHY? IS YOUR
401(K) THAT CRAPPY? IF SO, TRY THIS: CONTRIBUTE JUST ENOUGH TO YOUR
401(k) TO GET 100% OF YOUR COMPANY MATCH, IF YOU CAN, THEN INVEST THE
REST OUT OF PLAN IN EITHER A TRADITIONAL OR ROTH IRA, DEPENDING ON YOUR
SITUATION.

Steven wrote:
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> Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
> ideas. Thanx.


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Old 02-09-2004, 09:00 AM
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> From: "John G Fidder CFP" GFidderNOSPAM[at]Cinci.rr.com
> Date: 2/8/04 9:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <9AtVb.21847$cc.9929[at]fe3.columbus.rr.com
> and ERISA protection [which IRAs have, for the most part, on
> a state level].


IRAs have no ERISA protection at any level.

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Old 02-08-2004, 04:17 PM
John G Fidder CFP
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A fair number of large employers allow in-service rollovers. The big
companies in town that allow it are Abbott Labs, GE, and Procter and Gamble.
But an even larger number of companies don't allow in-service distributions.

As to why, there are MANY reasons. In fact, the only reasons NOT to do it
are loan privileges on the 401(k) [generally a terrible place to get to
money, anyway] and ERISA protection [which IRAs have, for the most part, on
a state level]. Reasons to complete an in-service rollover include:

==> Roth Conversion potential
==> Ability to pay for college without 10% penalty
==> More investment choices
==> Ability to buy and sell individual stocks, bonds
==> Ability to sell covered calls against company stock (and other stock,
of course)
==> Better beneficiary designations
==> Ownership of the money (anybody remember Enron?)
==> Ability to set price targets when selling company stock
==> Ability to set stop loss orders on company stock
==> Others



"BMS" <mcfarland[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fuaVb.195559$5V2.1074855[at]attbi_s53...
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> Depending on your plan's documents, partial in service rollovers are
> possible. The question is why?
> "Steven" <Steven[at]Google.com> wrote in message
> news:Rc%Ub.471$Lp.452[at]twister.nyc.rr.com...
> > Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
> > ideas. Thanx.

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Old 02-08-2004, 03:13 PM
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"BMS" <mcfarland[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fuaVb.195559$5V2.1074855[at]attbi_s53...
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> Depending on your plan's documents, partial in service rollovers are
> possible. The question is why?


I'm not answering for the OP, but I can think of a very good
reasy why. A couple of jobs back I had a really shitty plan
at work. Very limited options as far as choices in where/what
to invest in. Couldn't go outside anything offered as part of
TheCompanyPlan. Sometimes you might want to go outside
TheCompanyPlan to open up more options.


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Old 02-07-2004, 09:02 PM
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"Steven" <Steven[at]Google.com> wrote in message news:<Rc%Ub.471$Lp.452[at]twister.nyc.rr.com> ...
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> Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
> ideas. Thanx.


I think it is up to the plan. But, I would think such plans would be
in the minority.

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Old 02-07-2004, 06:44 PM
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Default Re: 401k rollover to IRA while still at the job?

Depending on your plan's documents, partial in service rollovers are
possible. The question is why?

"Steven" <Steven[at]Google.com> wrote in message
news:Rc%Ub.471$Lp.452[at]twister.nyc.rr.com...
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> Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
> ideas. Thanx.


 
Old 02-07-2004, 06:44 PM
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> From: "Steven" Steven[at]Google.com
> Date: 2/7/04 3:17 AM Pacific Standard Time
> Message-id: <Rc%Ub.471$Lp.452[at]twister.nyc.rr.com
> Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
> ideas. Thanx.


Only if yourEmploer's plan allows it. The vast majority do not.

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Old 02-07-2004, 10:17 AM
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Default 401k rollover to IRA while still at the job?

Am I allowed to rollover my 401k to an IRA while still at the job? Any
ideas. Thanx.

 

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