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| On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 04:10:58 CST, "_JP" <YamYam[at]nospamsplease.megapathdsl.net> wrote: - quote - > The reason is, since he is going to be 70 soon (according to him, although I
I don't see any problem with three different withdrawal amounts - as> personally don't think 7 years is that "soon"), and that's the time IRS will > "force" him to make withdrawals. When the time comes, he will set up > periodic withdrawal schedules for those three IRA accounts differently; > fast, slow, and somewhere in between. Therefore, he believes he should keep > three different IRA accounts like now. long as the total amount withdrawn yearly is not less than the minimum distribution required. -HW "Skip" Weldon Columbia, SC |
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| _JP wrote: - quote - > Well, that's not me.
For determining your required minimum distribution, to the IRS there's> Anyway, yesterday I had a chance to have a little chitchat with a 66 year > old man (he was a quite funny person, too). > He currently has 3 IRA annuity accounts with 3 different > investment/insurance/financial companies. When I asked him if he had ever > considered consolidating them into one account (rolling two of them over to > the other one), he said he must not. > The reason is, since he is going to be 70 soon (according to him, although I > personally don't think 7 years is that "soon"), and that's the time IRS will > "force" him to make withdrawals. When the time comes, he will set up > periodic withdrawal schedules for those three IRA accounts differently; > fast, slow, and somewhere in between. Therefore, he believes he should keep > three different IRA accounts like now. only one "IRA," the sum of all your individual IRA accounts. The distribution is set by the total value of those accounts. You don't need to take a distribution from each of them though, you can allocate it however you want across the accounts. -Tad |
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| He should keep them separate if they have varying returns. It is the reverse of the debt payment logic. Take the Required Minimum Distribution (RMD) from the poorest yielding bucket of money, exhaust that and move on from there. The IRS looks at your IRA assets in total and the fund can set the RMD based on the information You like your spouse or your dog. Unless there is a customer service issue, the only game that matters in the end is yield. Given any surrender charges, if he moves an account it would be to get better yields. "_JP" <YamYam[at]nospamsplease.megapathdsl.net> wrote in message news:vsr1lf9ibif215[at]corp.supernews.com... - quote - > Well, that's not me. > Anyway, yesterday I had a chance to have a little chitchat with a 66 year > old man (he was a quite funny person, too). And during our conversation, he > told me about something that I didn't know. I decided to come here and > verify its truthfulness. > Here's the deal; > He currently has 3 IRA annuity accounts with 3 different > investment/insurance/financial companies. When I asked him if he had ever > considered consolidating them into one account (rolling two of them over to > the other one), he said he must not. > The reason is, since he is going to be 70 soon (according to him, although I > personally don't think 7 years is that "soon"), and that's the time IRS will > "force" him to make withdrawals. When the time comes, he will set up > periodic withdrawal schedules for those three IRA accounts differently; > fast, slow, and somewhere in between. Therefore, he believes he should keep > three different IRA accounts like now. > 1) > First of all, is he allowed to do that at all? It's like he is telling IRS > that he plans on living until age 80, then age 90, and then again age 100 > while he only has one life to live. Obviously I don't know much about the > rules and regulations on IRA, but it just seems very illogical for IRS to > allow anyone to do this. > 2) > Even if he's allowed to do so, would it be a wise thing to do? That man > still has some taxable income even though he's retired, which sounded like > from some properties that he owns (like rents from apartment or retail > building). So, I guess he figured that it would be too much tax burden if > he takes the all the money out together. I don't know. I guess it is > different case by case, and maybe in his case it could be a right thing to > do. > 3) > Let's say he's allowed to do have different withdrawal schedules and doing > so is a right thing to do for him. Then, does this situation still justify > his logic of not consolidating his multiple IRA accounts? Well, maybe he > must have multiple accounts to do this "trick." But then, can't he do it > with one company, like having three different annuity accounts in one > company? He seemed very happy with one company, very unhappy with another, > and somewhere in the middle with the other. I am wondering if he can move > his money from the other two companies to the one he likes the most. > Thank you for your reply in advance. |
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| Well, that's not me. Anyway, yesterday I had a chance to have a little chitchat with a 66 year old man (he was a quite funny person, too). And during our conversation, he told me about something that I didn't know. I decided to come here and verify its truthfulness. Here's the deal; He currently has 3 IRA annuity accounts with 3 different investment/insurance/financial companies. When I asked him if he had ever considered consolidating them into one account (rolling two of them over to the other one), he said he must not. The reason is, since he is going to be 70 soon (according to him, although I personally don't think 7 years is that "soon"), and that's the time IRS will "force" him to make withdrawals. When the time comes, he will set up periodic withdrawal schedules for those three IRA accounts differently; fast, slow, and somewhere in between. Therefore, he believes he should keep three different IRA accounts like now. 1) First of all, is he allowed to do that at all? It's like he is telling IRS that he plans on living until age 80, then age 90, and then again age 100 while he only has one life to live. Obviously I don't know much about the rules and regulations on IRA, but it just seems very illogical for IRS to allow anyone to do this. 2) Even if he's allowed to do so, would it be a wise thing to do? That man still has some taxable income even though he's retired, which sounded like from some properties that he owns (like rents from apartment or retail building). So, I guess he figured that it would be too much tax burden if he takes the all the money out together. I don't know. I guess it is different case by case, and maybe in his case it could be a right thing to do. 3) Let's say he's allowed to do have different withdrawal schedules and doing so is a right thing to do for him. Then, does this situation still justify his logic of not consolidating his multiple IRA accounts? Well, maybe he must have multiple accounts to do this "trick." But then, can't he do it with one company, like having three different annuity accounts in one company? He seemed very happy with one company, very unhappy with another, and somewhere in the middle with the other. I am wondering if he can move his money from the other two companies to the one he likes the most. Thank you for your reply in advance. |
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