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| In article <bli4rb$o5t$1[at]reader2.panix.com> , bill <bill_knight2[at]yahoo.comwrites: - quote - > my goal is to attain an excellent rating.
You may want to request your credit report with credit score (more $ for thescores), and see what those reports say as negatives. Note, however, if you already have very good scores, the majority of the recommendations might not be applicable to you. If you already have a FICO score of 720 or above, you already qualify for most of the good mortgage packages, good loan rates, maximum credit on insurance for being a good credit risk, etc., and the benefit of getting the scores even higher will likely have no real life implications. Mark A. Young |
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| "bill" <bill_knight2[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:blk7j1$elf$1[at]reader2.panix.com... <snipped | I knew only the first two of the "basics" you list above. Clearly, | I have a lot to learn! Where can I find out the full scoop on the | basics? Is there a book or website that I could read on this? | | Thanks! | | bill | Check out Equifax's consumer website at http://www.myfico.com/myfico/CreditCentral.asp. Michael |
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| In article <eb91af01.0310040745.43ef40df[at]posting.google.com> , Speednxs <speednxsticket[at]earthlink.net> wrote: - quote - > > To increase your Fair Issac, you want to have a lot of accounts,
I never said that this was a great personal finance strategy,> > with very high credit limits, and you want to use those accounts > > frequently. Some folks simply move money around to do this, > > while others take the money and invest it. > You've given great advice before John. I kept looking for the smiley > face with this one. I hear Mick Jagger singing "Play with me, you > play with fire" over and over in my head. You could probably use this > strategy if you have the discipline of a Saint. Credit cards can be > like a barbed hook. They go in easy and render flesh on the way out. > Sure you can borrow $5,000 right now for $100 a month (maybe $25 for > that introductory rate). Obviously you are ahead of the game for 50 > months. And then... Miss a payment and now you get the non-preferred > max rate and you have to shovel twice as fast. I always liked that > advice. "If you are digging yourself into a hole, stop digging." as you point out. But I do have some insight into how the Fair Issac score is computed (although the actual formula is secret), and the original poster specifically asked how to imporve his credit score. This is one of the tricks for breaking above 750 into the 770/780 range without being a millionaire. Then again, I don't know why someone would want to pump up their credit score this way. Anything over 720 will get you the best rates that are available, and above 680 will still get you a great mortgage if everything else is in order (income, the ratios, on-time, etc). I do, however, know of a personality type that is obsessed with their credit score, just like some other people are addicted to gambling. -john- -- ================================================== ================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john[at]johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ================== |
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| "John A. Weeks III" <john[at]johnweeks.com> wrote in message news:<031020031036419673%john[at]johnweeks.com> ... - quote - > In article <bd8fb.673212$uu5.110115[at]sccrnsc04> , Chip G
a disadvantage built into it. Credit scoring has many rules and this> <NOSPAMchipg_98[at]ATyahoo.TODELETE.com> wrote: > > One of the major hits is how much potential revolving credit you have... how > > many credit cards and what are the limits... > > From what I know of Fair Issac, cancelling accounts actually > lowers your credit score, especially if you have any balances. > The reason is that they track your % of used credit versus > available credit. If you reduce your available credit, your > % of used credit goes up, which reduces your score. Everything has advantages and disadvantages. This advantage also has is just one consideration. Having lot's of accounts reduces your potential revolving credit as Chip so eloquently stated above. If you have already maxed out your discretionary income with credit cards you might not qualify for that 1.9% car loan that you really want. In a sense potential credit ($0 balance) is treated the same as actual credit ($10,000 limit maxed out), since you could use it. - quote - > To increase your Fair Issac, you want to have a lot of accounts,
face with this one. I hear Mick Jagger singing "Play with me, you> with very high credit limits, and you want to use those accounts > frequently. Some folks simply move money around to do this, > while others take the money and invest it. You've given great advice before John. I kept looking for the smiley play with fire" over and over in my head. You could probably use this strategy if you have the discipline of a Saint. Credit cards can be like a barbed hook. They go in easy and render flesh on the way out. Sure you can borrow $5,000 right now for $100 a month (maybe $25 for that introductory rate). Obviously you are ahead of the game for 50 months. And then... Miss a payment and now you get the non-preferred max rate and you have to shovel twice as fast. I always liked that advice. "If you are digging yourself into a hole, stop digging." - quote - > BTW, I am assuming that the original poster has done the basics > like always paying on time, never going over balance, always > paying more than the minimums, Your typical sensible advice! and always using credit cards - quote - > when you have that option. Ooh, the long bomb bounces off the fingertips and out of bounds! I'm in the top 10% of FICO scores. I have 2 credit cards. One I haven't used for 3 years. The other I pay off every month. The credit card companies don't like me anywhere near as much as people with high monthly minimum payments who never miss. I would have a higher score, but I under use my credit. Too bad for me. Good Luck with you credit, Speednxs |
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| In <031020031036419673%john[at]johnweeks.com> "John A. Weeks III" <john[at]johnweeks.com> writes: - quote - > In article <bd8fb.673212$uu5.110115[at]sccrnsc04> , Chip G
This is good to know.> <NOSPAMchipg_98[at]ATyahoo.TODELETE.com> wrote: > > One of the major hits is how much potential revolving credit you have... how > > many credit cards and what are the limits... have you paid on-time over the > > long-haul. You might try taking a look at your credit report to see if there > > is anything at all on the report that you had forgotten about... old > > store/gas cards. The less potential revolving credit you have... the better > > AFAIK. > > From what I know of Fair Issac, cancelling accounts actually > lowers your credit score, especially if you have any balances. > The reason is that they track your % of used credit versus > available credit. If you reduce your available credit, your > % of used credit goes up, which reduces your score. > To increase your Fair Issac, you want to have a lot of accounts, > with very high credit limits, and you want to use those accounts > frequently. Some folks simply move money around to do this, > while others take the money and invest it. - quote - > BTW, I am assuming that the original poster has done the basics
I knew only the first two of the "basics" you list above. Clearly,> like always paying on time, never going over balance, always > paying more than the minimums, and always using credit cards > when you have that option. I have a lot to learn! Where can I find out the full scoop on the basics? Is there a book or website that I could read on this? Thanks! bill |
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| In article <bd8fb.673212$uu5.110115[at]sccrnsc04> , Chip G <NOSPAMchipg_98[at]ATyahoo.TODELETE.com> wrote: - quote - > One of the major hits is how much potential revolving credit you have... how
The reason is that they track your % of used credit versus> many credit cards and what are the limits... have you paid on-time over the > long-haul. You might try taking a look at your credit report to see if there > is anything at all on the report that you had forgotten about... old > store/gas cards. The less potential revolving credit you have... the better > AFAIK. > From what I know of Fair Issac, cancelling accounts actually lowers your credit score, especially if you have any balances. available credit. If you reduce your available credit, your % of used credit goes up, which reduces your score. To increase your Fair Issac, you want to have a lot of accounts, with very high credit limits, and you want to use those accounts frequently. Some folks simply move money around to do this, while others take the money and invest it. BTW, I am assuming that the original poster has done the basics like always paying on time, never going over balance, always paying more than the minimums, and always using credit cards when you have that option. -john- -- ================================================== ================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john[at]johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ================== |
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| bill <bill_knight2[at]yahoo.com> writes: - quote - > In <bd8fb.673212$uu5.110115[at]sccrnsc04> "Chip G" <NOSPAMchipg_98[at]ATyahoo.TODELETE.com> writes:
The sum of your available credit over all your credit cards.> Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is "potential revolving > credit"? -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us |
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| In <bd8fb.673212$uu5.110115[at]sccrnsc04> "Chip G" <NOSPAMchipg_98[at]ATyahoo.TODELETE.com> writes: - quote - > One of the major hits is how much potential revolving credit you have...
Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is "potential revolvingcredit"? bill |
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| "bill" <bill_knight2[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bli4rb$o5t$1[at]reader2.panix.com... - quote - > My credit rating has been pretty good for the past several years
One of the major hits is how much potential revolving credit you have... how> (good enough to get me a mortgage, for instance). I've made a > conscious effort to improve it, but it doesn't seem to be getting > any better. > Maybe it is relatively easy to improve one's rating from bad to > good, but my goal is to attain an excellent rating. Are there > professionals out there specializing on advising clients on how to > achieve such a rating? How about books? I've seen several books > on cleaning up one's credit record, but they all focus on improving > a bad rating, not on attaining an excellent rating starting from > an already good rating. > Thanks! > bill many credit cards and what are the limits... have you paid on-time over the long-haul. You might try taking a look at your credit report to see if there is anything at all on the report that you had forgotten about... old store/gas cards. The less potential revolving credit you have... the better AFAIK. |
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| My credit rating has been pretty good for the past several years (good enough to get me a mortgage, for instance). I've made a conscious effort to improve it, but it doesn't seem to be getting any better. Maybe it is relatively easy to improve one's rating from bad to good, but my goal is to attain an excellent rating. Are there professionals out there specializing on advising clients on how to achieve such a rating? How about books? I've seen several books on cleaning up one's credit record, but they all focus on improving a bad rating, not on attaining an excellent rating starting from an already good rating. Thanks! bill |
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